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The perfect IPSC production gun (?)

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by mc_oliver, Jun 30, 2004.

  1. mc_oliver

    mc_oliver

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    Join me in my prayers to get this gun approved in the IPSC list. ;)

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  2. batangueno

    batangueno Shock Resist

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  3. glck17

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    ang ganda naman yan!:cool: may balita na ba sa presyo? availability?
     
  4. mc_oliver

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    Mey balita din ako yung tanfoglio mag lalabas ng production gun din. It'll be patterned after their HC Custom(?) na naka long dust din with a capacity of 18 rounds. Yehey!

    Sana affordable...;Q
     
  5. Eye Cutter

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    Yes! Mc_O san mo nakita yung pic ng CZ 75B Police Special? Yan yung sinasabi sa amin ni Chito Canteras since late last year (sa Battle of the Gun Clubs). Sabi niya CZ will come out with a model specifically for IPSC Production Division.

    Problem is, how will IPSC rule regarding the new 18 rd mags? Will it be allowed to be used in the regular CZ75Bs and 85Bs? Kung mag-rule si Darth na legal to use in old CZ's, ayos na ayos yan!
     
  6. Eye Cutter

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    e galing pala sa website ni Darth Vader yan e! matignan nga kung i-rule na legal for PD
     
  7. bulm540

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    I may shoot production next year and i am leaning towards a CZ type gun.
     
  8. Eye Cutter

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    don't forget to consider the Para P16-40 or P18-9 LDA.
     
  9. ogiebb

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    ang sarap naman ipanglaro nyan;f ;f ...pwede kaya yan? ...
     
  10. Eye Cutter

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    This is just my personal observation and I'm still biased towards the CZ's. The CZ and Jericho are sold about the same price. The Tanfoglios are still below 30K. But why buy something cheaper but can cause you potential headaches later on? Specially our nature na butingting nang butingting!

    IMHO, I can't figure out what the problem is with the Tanfoglios. Most local tanfoglios i've seen are jam-ma-matics and parating nag-du-dud.

    The same goes for the Jericho 941s, but not as often. They're generally more reliable and have less problems than the tanfogs.

    I'm not saying the CZ's are not problem free. Remember when we shot the del de guzman cup last december at armscor, i was using my 85B and it kept on opening to slide lock? It must probably been shooter induced (my hand hitting the slide stop) but taurus also experiences the same problems in his 85B. Another weakness of the CZ's is that the slide stop easily breaks.

    But generally, the CZ's perform better and are more reliable than the tanfogs and jerichos i've encountered.

    Opinion ko lang po ito! please take lightly with a splash of Tentay's patis!

    ;K
     
  11. Valor1

    Valor1 Pro Paingiver

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    Why is the Jericho more reliable than the Tanfog's? Isn't that the Jericho uses parts manufactured by Tanfoglio excpet for the barrel which IMI made themselves. What gives? CZ is of course the most reliable compared against jerichos and tans except of course for the slide stop. Can't they do anything about it?
     
  12. Eye Cutter

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    I really don't know. The jerichos are overbuilt for sure compared to the tanfoglios. I'm sure tanfoglio owners will disagree. but I had a tanfoglio once and I disposed of it less than 1 month I bought it bec. of reliability issues.
     
  13. 9MX

    9MX Rei!

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    very true, just ask homogenizer;z he was able to bend the barrel and with his destructive powers, his tangfog would no longer fire on DA
    ;f

    kaya ba ni volta yan?;a
     
  14. mc_oliver

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    The good thing about all of this is that now you can have a race-ready gun direct from the factory. At least now they're heeding the call of IPSC shooters for "better" factory equipment. My only hope is that they don't put too much premium on this and make it as expensive as the Para.

    But just the same, dumadami na options. :)
     
  15. Saruman

    Saruman I carry a GLOCK

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    meron ba in .40 option yan?? mga 17 rounds pwede na..:) :)
     
  16. bulm540

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    As a far as Vince Pinto is concerned, this gun is as sure as approved. They had a problem with the plus 2 bases.
     
  17. Eye Cutter

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    Yeah, accdg to Darth Vader, it's almost certain it will be PD legal.

    I got this text message from our Gun Club President, Mr. Louie Dionisio. The SMS goes:

    "Requesting Team PB Production shooters' presence next week, Tuesday, 1500hrs, PB Range for consultative dialog with CZ International Directors Milan Turkulja and Peter Konopka."

    Ayos!!! Baka magbigay ang CZ Intl. ng mga bagong CZ 75 SP01 Tactical for our "evaluation"! Hehehe, Ivan, mark your calendar!!! pero teka, baka hawakan mo lang mabasag na agad! Huwag na lang kaya!?!
     
  18. Eye Cutter

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    IMO, FO front sights do not give a significant advantage over plain black or painted front sights except in terms of accuracy and speed of sight acquisition. Maybe for tired old eyes, which it helps in drawing the focus to them.
     
  19. paltic

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    dapat mai-discuss sa CZ yung firing pins na madaling mabali, firing pin stop (roll pin), slide stop, trigger rebound spring breakage, etc... ang dami pala no?;g