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The Panic of 2013 Ends Tuesday

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Restless28, Jan 13, 2013.

  1. CincyBrad


    Jan 2, 2004
    Don't assume Rebublicans will hold ground on this issue. I wouldn't be shocked in the least if Boehner uses the gun issue as leverage on the fiscal issues. Meaning, they might be willing to accept mag restrictions if Obama agrees to X spending cuts.

    This won't end the insane prices either, it will just prolong them. Ammo and gun manufacturers are still out of stock, and as long as any legislation is sitting out there, people will keep buying as fast as companies can get them out the door.

    IMO, current pricing levels will remain until after the 2014 midterm. Right now it's a supply issue, which will probably linger for a year. If no ban is passed by that time, prices will stay high because of the midterm, and the possibility Republicans could lose control of the House.

    It sucks, but that's the way I see it playing out.
  2. South Fla

    South Fla ©South Fla 2015

    Oct 10, 2006
    Because he is a bully and will use what ever means necessary to accomplish those goals.

    And as far as doctors asking about guns in the I am going to tell a doctor that I might, or might not, have guns in my home. Yeah, riiiight....

  3. GAFinch


    Feb 23, 2009
    He said today that he was going to keep pursuing this issue instead of just moving on to something else. Second time he's said that this month. What the hell else is he gonna do for the next two to four years with a Republican House aside from necessary fiscal battles? His only hope of achieving his dream of completing FDR's Marxist transformation of this country is to focus on breaking and demonizing Republicans so the Democrats can retake the House in 2014.
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2013
  4. This is a fight that will continue forever. The prices will stay high for a long time. The worst thing is that the entire issue is mental illness and nobody wants to say the truth. So we will have to really be diligent and continue our support of the NRA and other gun rights groups.
  5. akroguy


    Dec 26, 2010
    EXACTLY. It's unsustainable.
  6. Atlas

    Atlas transmogrifier

    Oct 1, 2001
    north of the equator
    As I've speculated already, they may/could try it as a sort of diversionary tactic..

    After a year or three there would be some high-profile incident..
    The story in the media will be that it involved a gun purchased in a private back-yard sale with no background check performed..
    The anti's will have legislation all ready to impose registration for any and all firearms.

    The legal penalty for failure to register any gun you already own will probably be 10 years or more in a federal penitentiary.

    The antis are capable of any level of deceit and trickery.
    They're damn determined and they'll never give up.
  7. Ruggles


    Jun 13, 2005
    You SOBs need to shut up! If my wife finds out that a AWB is not a coming next week my leverage to buy gun stuff is gonna drop off the radar!

    So everybody sticks to the "yep Obama is gonna ban that so I have to buy one now" line ok?

  8. Atlas

    Atlas transmogrifier

    Oct 1, 2001
    north of the equator

    That describes each and every gun I've ever purchased.
    I've never put my name or signature on any paper or shown anyone an ID.
    All 100% legal in each case.
  9. brisk21


    May 13, 2008

    Please. Wouldn't you like to know who your are selling your shotgun to? Wouldn't you like to know if they were a violent mentally ill person? I am more pro gun, pro 2A, pro United States Citizen than most. Watch who you label son. You don't know me. I don't want to be the guy who sold my shotgun to a crazy person because they got turned down by an FFL. Then they go use my shotgun in an illegal manner. I don't want that.
  10. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

    Apr 23, 2008
    No. Crazy people are entitled to self defense too.

    You sound like a gun grabber.
  11. Ruggles


    Jun 13, 2005
    I think if you want to sell/buy with IDs and bills of sale involved then do so, no harm no foul.

    But if legal and you don't want to then don't.

    Not sure why either action has the be judged as anti gun/anti American or irresponsible. Just personal choice.
  12. JakeFromStateFarm

    JakeFromStateFarm .40 S&W

    Dec 14, 2012
    Makes me not even want to think about this whole situation.
  13. holesinpaper


    Nov 18, 2009

    We, boy, then don't support a mandate that infringes on the 2nd Amendment.

    If YOU want to require a FFL transfer when YOU sell a gun, then do it. No current law prevents you and your buyer from going to and FFL and paying him to do paperwork on a private sale.

    If you support Obama's desire to end private transfers, then you are anti-gun.
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2013
  14. heitzoflearning


    Jan 18, 2009
    The problem with background checks on all purchases is that it needs all guns to be registered for it to work. I,personally, don't want the Govt. to know what I have or don't have because it is none of their business and like it or not they have taken guns away from law abiding people in some cases such as Katrina. I've sold many firearms privately, and can tell you that if I don't like the way someone is acting or comes across, I simply don't sell them the gun. It isn't that hard in all reality.
  15. jbailey8


    Dec 16, 2007
    Roanoke, VA
    Yeah, I get that, but compromise is everybody giving in. That's why I said bill of sale and not background check/registration. I sold 2 guns this week without any paper work.
    "Are you a felon?"
    "Have a nice day!"

    posted using Outdoor Hub Campfire
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2013
  16. Chonny


    Mar 30, 2010
    Edmond, OK
    This stuff is getting a bit too much.

    Its almost as if the conspiracy theorists are right and these shootings are being acted out by an anti 2A group in cahoots with the government.

    They got caught on Fast and Furious, whos to say they dont have other operations going on.

    Obama is the scariest president Ive lived under. He is an ominous figure. I do not feel safe with him as my president.

    I feel safe with my state government. My governor won't give Obama the time of day. She wouldn't go to Cushing (an hour from her office downtown) when he was here to take pictures in front of the pipeline thats always been here... But she was able to schedule an appearance to the NBA Finals.

    If you guys want to feel safe you need to move to a state that supports the 2nd amendment.
  17. I don't own any 10rnd magazines.
  18. I guess you all realize that this issue is nothing new. The progressives have been waging this war since the Watts Riots. The health care issue was also a dream for progressives for decades. Obama just happens to be a better marketer than past presidents.

    This fight will never end, but the sheer level of fear that he incites is amazing.
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2013
  19. Atlas

    Atlas transmogrifier

    Oct 1, 2001
    north of the equator
    And it's a mistake to give the president too much focus..
    He's only the PR man, the front for a much larger entity.

    The anti-2nd amendment, anti-liberty crowd will be there still after Obama has completed his term and retired to a private estate in Hawaii.
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2013
  20. Agreed. The focus should be on the Congress. We should engage both Democrats and Independents and support the NRA.
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2013