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The new Ninja 250R

Discussion in 'Moto Club' started by Cochese, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. Cochese

    Cochese Most mackinest CLM

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    I had my eye on a new Ninja 250R. I was looking into getting a 2008 but they were impossible to find in black. They canceled the rest of the 2008's as of the first of August anyway. They are probably re-VINing everything to 2009 in their grasp while they catch up with production.

    The dealership felt bad about my 2008 getting canceled so they gave me first dibbs on the first '09 into the shop. I told them if it ain't black, I don't want it.

    I guess the price is going up from $3499 to $3999 due to the demand. :upeyes:

    My contract with the dealership is for $3499 so I'm curious to see how this plays out. Me thinks they'll be letting go a zero gross deal on this one. I built a fender eliminator into the deal as well.

    Other planned mods are a re-jet and full header back exhaust. I'm also adding saddle bags and a tail bag for my first big trip. I already have a pretty nice tank bag, and coat and helmets are purchased. I have 3k in the bank and 2-3 more pay periods before it lands.

    I can't wait!

    Anyone here have a new 2fiddy? I know I've seen SOMEONE post pics of a nice black one!
     
  2. fnfalman

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    It's a pretty fun ride. The suspension and braking systems are a lot better sorted than the previous generation. But power is down and weight is up though, so rejet, exhaust, air filter/airbox mod is a must.
     


  3. Cochese

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    Power is down?

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    14 foot pounds at the wheel!

    I know they weight a bit more, but as I understand it, the additional power makes up for it. At any rate, re-jet, full header back exhaust and filter are first on the list. I'm wiring in a battery charge cable as well and a rear fender eliminator kit goes on at the dealer.

    Should be set after that. The exhaust and intake/rejet should actually increase mileage if I stay out of the throttle, no?
     
  4. fnfalman

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    No. You're rejetting the bike to run richer and smoother than the lean settings from the factory. Fuel consumption will go up, but I seriously doubt by much. But at least you will have a bike that runs smoother and less hot.

    My niece's bike is from the previous generation. It has a 2-in-1 Yoshimura exhaust coupled with rejet kit, open air box and K&N filter. That mutha sounds like a magnumized popcorn machine coming down the street. SWEET!
     
  5. OGW

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  6. michael t

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    Think I want something a little bigger for a trip 500 at least. That sucker be buzzing about 7500 on road. Their nice and my daugthers all want one .But they aren't going on trips Just school and after school jobs. 15, 20 miles a day.
    Why not a used bike with a little more motor
     
  7. Cochese

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    Nice. Thanks for the info. I figured what I read about better mileage out of a high flow exhaust/air box was B.S.

    :cheers:

    I went from a Ninja EX 500 to a GSXR 750 to an R1 and now I'm back full circle. I want the mileage out of the 250. The longest trip I'd make is TX from CO. I've done it on an EX 500. I'd be willing to on the new gen 250R after reading some of the distance ride stories on 2fiddy, ninja250.org, etc.

    :thumbsup:
     
  8. 250 is a good pick, good MPG and will do what you need it to do. I got a 1999 Ninja 250 and could have upgraded LONG ago..but why do I need a bike with more power..I drive the speed limit(55-72 give or take in my areas I travel) and it will do that EASILY...Ive never really understood the "you need more bike/motor/power" thing..I keep saying why do I need more lol and just keep riding the 250 that gets better MPG than the "bigger power" bike and does everything I need it to do.e
     
  9. Armchair Commando

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    That is the major problem nowadays, You get some Young and Dumb kids who know nothing about riding a Motorcycle and the First thing they get is a Hayabusa, Then you read about them all the time getting killed cause their In-Experience catches up with them.
     
  10. fnfalman

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    It also kills me that people are recommending 600-cc watercooled inline four motorcycles as "starter bikes". These motorcycles put out 100+ HP at the rear wheel, yet somehow people think that it's a good idea to start out on these bikes. Bikes are getting faster as the years go by the people aren't born with better riding skills.
     
  11. Cochese

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    As I said, I started on a large bike (riding my friends liter bike) but I suppose with all of the squids around, I am an exception to the rule (of squids!).
     
  12. yes you would be the exception then..thats a HORRIBLE bike to start on. But then again the 2 kids down the street that both have R6's and ride with shorts no shirt and flip flops wonder why I have a 250..I say I dont need anything more they honestly just cant comprehend that I dont want to or need to go over 100MPH, have 50 more HP than I will ever need in a bike, and also wonder why I actually wear "gear" when I ride...
     
  13. Lewsid 13

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    If you are happy with your 250R, good for you. But, I find your statement ("I say I dont need anything more they honestly just cant comprehend that I dont want to or need to go over 100MPH, have 50 more HP than I will ever need in a bike") a bit narrow.

    The need for additional horsepower is not used JUST to travel at excessive rates of speed. Yes, it is for that too, which I quite enjoy might I add. But, horsepower can come in handy in situations when you may need it to get you out of a jam, IE. a car cuts you off and you need some ponies for some quick evasive exceleration.

    I don't care what you say, a 250 is far short of the horsepower required to get you out of a jam at highway speeds. In fact, I find a 600 such as the R6 you mentioned to be enferior in the horsepower department as well when it comes down to raw torque. To get the power you need at highway speeds out of a 600, you have to downshift three of four gears to get any real horsepower......

    .....and that, my friends is why I ride an R1.

    and, for that person who rode a ninja 250 across the country and enjoyed it. You are an anomoly, because I don't see anything enjoyable about that at all. Cheers!
     
  14. Cochese

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    We wouldn't want to be considered Inferior!

    I rode an R1, a GSXR750 and an EX500, since 1997. I'm familiar with the "you need TONS of getaway power!!!" Kool-Aid argument.

    Having been through the riding schools I've been through and riding the bikes I've ridden (including a 2006 Road King at work) a lot of defensive riding is attributed to proper braking, swerving and gear selection.

    It's not all about power. And I'd rather ride across country on a 250 Ninja than hunched over a stock R1 any day, from experience.

    :wavey:


     
  15. Lewsid 13

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    I in no way referred to anyone riding a 250 or a 600 as inferior. I was referring to the power available in 6th or top gear of a smaller displacement motorcycle at highway speeds as the culprit of inferiority. Who cruises on the highway in 2nd gear?

    Yes, I too have been around the block as pertaining to saddle time and bike selection, and I agree that "a lot of defensive riding is attributed to proper braking, swerving and gear selection.". But, ALL ELSE being equal, I will take the horsepower every time.

    As far as the cross country riding goes, I could never imagine doing it on ANY sportbike, regardless of displacement, and that includes my faithful R1 :wavey:
     

  16. we can agree to disagree, no biggie. and I KNOW I dont need anything bigger than a 500..so if/when I upgrade it will be from the 1999 Ninja 250 I have to a newer Ninja 250 OR a Ninja 500 or a Suzuki GS 500F/E..no need for a 600+ . Just no need for a high HP bike for what I ride a Motorcycle for and thats simply because it gets 70+ MPG compared to my cars 28 MPG..im not in it for speed, or corner carving, just commuting and the occasional day off ride..
     
  17. fnfalman

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    :wow::crying::steamed::faint:

    What?
     
  18. No need, no want, thats just not what I got a bike for. for me its just a glorified scooter :) . And to be honest if I did not have so many hilly areas to go over(if my job was in town) id probably have a scooter instead but the 250 is just so much cooler :). Seen too many friends with bikes get hurt(some seriously) doing all the high speed corner carving stuff ..but NONE of my friends with bikes mysteriously have been hurt just riding to and from work . So I am just not interested in something that adds just that much more danger into a equation thats already more dangerous(than driving a car) already.
     
  19. fnfalman

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    You DO know that they make 200-250 cc scooters, right?

    BTW, sorry to disappoint you but the Ninjette isn't cooler than a scooter. Chicks dig scooters. I'll bet that had you bought this scooter, you would have to fight off chicks dropping their panties for you.:tongueout:

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