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The Holy Bible is both historically and scientifically correct.

Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by Peace Warrior, Oct 17, 2012.


  1. Peace Warrior

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    With you I will, but yet excuse me, but your moniker on GT is Animal Mother, namely, your moniker is not "Lone Wolf8634," so understanding, I was addressing Lone Wolf8634 on THE RULE: Only ONE item, topic, subject and or theme at a time please.

    You see -am-, in my estimation, you're an internet thread dilbert that wants to dominate and control every facet of the threads you decide to participate in. Sorry charlie, not gonna happen here. Just look at how you have responded in the single thread. I have addressed others and you have consistently "grabbed our interactions" as if they were yours. I'll get to you, I promise, as my usual practice is to get to every authentic response, but your an idiot if you think I am going let you control the direction or theme of this thread. Back up, wait your turn, and deal with it. Capisce?!?
     

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    You've never heard of Boyle's Law? Here ya go:

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/boyles-law-info.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyle's_law

    http://www.chm.davidson.edu/vce/gaslaws/boyleslawcalc.html

    http://www.iun.edu/~cpanhd/C101webnotes/gases/boyleslaw.html
     

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    Well, that was easy.

    I rest my case.
     
  5. Peace Warrior

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    Wow, just wow.... so gas laws and or gas properties are not applicable to star formation. Wow, just wow....

    Okay, if you know how stars form or formed without gasses coalescing, please do tell, but note one thing, make sure your explanation(s) will hold up to scientific scrutiny.
     
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    Point of order: Before you rest a case, you have first have had to make a case, which you did not. Nice try though...
     
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    Spot on, truth!
     
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    Luckily, your estimation is, at best, of negligible importance. Your disappointing habit of feigning offense in place of providing a substantive response to questions you are asked is hardly a new tactic but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be pointed out and emphasized every time you attempt to employ it.

    As a side note, in case the reality has escaped you, this is a public message board. Anyone can respond to any post. If that somehow makes you feel uncomfortable, incapable, or unable to formulate a coherent response perhaps you should retreat to private messages where no one can point out your failures.
     
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    Actually, I'd argue it's incumbent upon PW to explain how Boyle's law applies in the formation of stars.

    From his vague, nonsensical posts, it appears he believes the formation of stars takes place within a closed system, despite the evidence to the contrary offered by the simple mechanism of looking into the cosmos.
     
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    The irony is strong in this one.
     
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    Sure, I'm familiar with Boyle's Law.

    This is what I'd be interested in as well.

    Peace Warrior,
    Boyle's Law is based on a closed system which ISM is not.

    So, would you care to show any refereed paper's that conclude that star formation is impossible (with or without reference to Boyle's Law)? Astrophysicists must not have your understanding, because arxiv.org that I previously mentioned is full of papers describing how star formation occurs.

    So back to your claim that "all available research [you] could find indicates that stars cannot form by themselves". Can you share the research that reaches this conclusion?

    thanks,
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    True, so true, and a personj such as myself can simply choose to ignore the incessant ramblings of an obsessive, possibly psychotic individual. Thanks for reminding me -am-.
     
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    No, actually, I base my post on the research and studies of 100's of scientists whose only claim to the cosmos being able to formulate/create a star is to have 20 stars nova (i.e., blow up) pretty much simultaneously, and "nearby one another," in order to have even a small chance of forming a new star.

    So knowing, if it takes 20 stars blowing up in order to have the processes in motion so as to form a new star, wouldn't this actually deplete the number of stars in the cosmos? Lose 20 to gain 1?!?

    Hey, this logic would be great sell to the American public so as to eliminate debt, but it will NEVER work to harmonize what is observed in the universe with the Big bang theory.
     
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    If you read it more carefully, you will see that there are certain prerequisite conditions that must be present for Boyle's law to hold true.

    This is exactly right. The coalescing of gases in a nebula is not a closed system. Boyle's law does not apply. 100 interwebs for each of you.

    Certainly, I agree. But I think we all know that if we sat here and waited for PW to figure out the flaw in how he has misapplied his limited scientific knowledge the stars that could have never formed in the first place would all burn out. It's not like he ever understood the argument he was presenting to begin with. He's quite obviously repeating something he read/heard from a creationist apologetic source.
     
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    -am-, or geko45, (ETA) or artificial grape, just so as to make our respective points more clear and on even keel with one another, please remind me, or if i am wrong please inform me, when it comes to cosmological heat, or terrestrial heat, these types of heat are the only forms of energy that have to have a medium in which to disperse or dissipate in? Is this not true? If so, all well and good as this is a benchmark upon the position I am taking on this issue, but if not, please correct me as I do want to know the truth.

    Thanks... :wavey:
     
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    Here is the best layman's explanation I've heard which explains why the universe didn't just stay as a thinly distributed gas medium.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DECAorZYErk"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DECAorZYErk[/ame]

    The gravity brings the gas together as described above which increases pressure, which increases heat and eventually the right conditions for a nuclear fusion reaction emerge and a star is formed.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EnBBIx6XkM"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EnBBIx6XkM[/ame]
     
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    Geko45, just so as to make our respective points more clear and on even keel with one another, please remind me, or if i am wrong please inform me, when it comes to cosmological heat, or terrestrial heat, these types of heat are the only forms of energy that have to have a medium in which to disperse or dissipate in? Is this not true? If so, all well and good as this is a benchmark upon the position I am taking on this issue, but if not, please correct me as I do want to know the truth.
     
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    Response pending. :whistling:
     
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    Okay, Ill be back later.
     
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    Not even sure what the heck you are talking about here with "comological" and "terrestial" heat, seems nonsensical. There is only heat and if it makes you feel any better, yes, heat can only be transfered from matter to matter via physical contact.

    I would also point out that Boyle's Law does not take into consideration the effects of gravity. Or, to say it differently, Boyle's Law is only valid in a system where gravitational effects are so negligible as to not be worth calculating.
     
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