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The "gun problem" is a "black problem"

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Vic777, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. Syclone538

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  2. Gunhaver

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    Source? Not picking at ya, just wondering where you got this information.

    My first thoughts were that the IQ of black people that identify as black would have lower average IQs. Who's putting them down as black? Is it the test taker themselves or the test givers?

    There are plenty of people that many would call black that don't identify as black. Like Morgan freeman said, "I am not a minority, I am a human being and there are over 7 billion of us." I don't consider myself white and I study evolution enough to know that there is no genetic distinction between the races. It's all just variations in skin tone. It's not even a cultural thing across the board. A short conversation with Eminem and Neil deGrasse Tyson would prove that point.

    I suppose that if we all went down to Sherwin Williams and picked a sample card that closest matched our skin tone and then called ourselves that color name then that would be more accurate but it's still a stupid criteria for dividing ourselves. I'd be Ambitious Amber and I could point out that we're smarter on average than the Gallant Goldies but I'd be an idiot that needs somebody to feel better than to do so.

    http://www.materials-world.com/paint-colors/sherwin_williams/color_options/images/SW-ColorOpt-03.gif

    Somebody that will check the black or African American box to describe themselves has already bought into the idea that there is such a thing as race when there really isn't which shows a predisposition to lower intelligence and a level of gullibility that would lead one to expect the IQ results that you posted. The smartest "black" people like to avoid this condescension and attempt to pigeon hole them for someone else's gain. I have met many of them even when working for HUD for years.

    I never mark race boxes on anything because that information is only used to separate us into groups and build cases for giving more tax money and special concessions to minority groups. I'm not as opposed to social programs as most here but I would at least like to see it distributed on the basis of need rather than race.
     


  3. certifiedfunds

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    On what Constitutional authority?
     
  4. rednoved

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  5. Gunhaver

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    Ask me how much I care if you think I'm telling the truth. The guy that commented right before you is advocating that drug and alcohol users be executed by the government and you decided to harp on my interview fib yet again? One can only assume that you agree with his point more than mine. That's pretty telling.
     
  6. Um, yeah. Prohibition was an utter failure. So it was changed and worked out fine.

    Time to do that with marijuana.
     
  7. Blacks are about 15% of the population and commit about 50% of the gun homicides.

    Doesn't matter whether the reason is no fathers, brain size, economics, etc...facts are facts. If we don't admit they are the biggest problem then we can't start to figure out why and then address it.

    Pretty simple logic. But no politically correct. So, they demonize white guys with assault weapons because you can say anything bad or derogatory about that group and most everyone applauds.
     
  8. Wil Ufgood

    Wil Ufgood GTDS #88 CLM

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  9. TX OMFS

    TX OMFS Right wing nut Lifetime Member

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    Enough to get mad and respond? Just sayin'
     
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  10. Gunhaver

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    Mad? That's funny. It's actually quite therapeutic for me to point out blatant ignorance. Thank's for the pick-me-up.
     
  11. TX OMFS

    TX OMFS Right wing nut Lifetime Member

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    No, you're mad.
     
  12. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    At least its a therapy you don't expect the tax payers to cover.
     
  13. Gunhaver

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    Oooooh, scathing retort you have there fella. :rofl:
     
  14. Gunhaver

    Gunhaver the wrong hands

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    At least, but my main therapy is shooting so if ammo gets any more expensive I might need a government subsidy. :tongueout:
     
  15. SpectreRider

    SpectreRider Armed Citizen

    If you live in Chicago and you are black, you are EIGHTEEN times more likely to commit a murder than if you are white.

    I worked through the numbers the other day and posted a thread in Gun Control Issues titled "Murder is Not a Gun Control Issue". I will put a link in here tomorrow if anyone doubts the truth of what the numbers show.

    http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1470229
     
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  16. TX OMFS

    TX OMFS Right wing nut Lifetime Member

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    See, you're mad. Sorry he upset you.
     
  17. Gunhaver

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    No, that was directed at you. CF just slipped in between us. Not mad at him either. I find him quite amusing. He hates me with a passion and bends over backwards to avoid the fact that I agree with him on a lot and think he's pretty adept at the art of the damn good point. He just can't see mine as often as I see his. Amusing as hell. :supergrin:
     
  18. BobbyS

    BobbyS Truth always sounds like lies to a sinner

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    The gun problem is a black problem.

    The black problem is the dude that is the prez-o-dent
     
  19. Ruble Noon

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAlNrtcPCLw"]Cypress Hill - Insane In The Membrane - YouTube[/ame]
     
  20. English

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    That was because they had been able to build large wealthy criminal organizations with the profits of supplying alcohol during prohibition. They then used those facilities to expand into different criminal activities. Like any business, large scale crime needs finance and organization.

    So what is being done now is expanding the scope of criminal business even further. Since we have demonstrated that we cannot win the war on drugs we have two policy choices. We can starve the drug suppliers of income by providing cheap drugs to users and use the money and wealth that has gone into that to fight violent crime ruthlessly. Alternatively we can completely change our tactics and start aiming our activity against drug users. Once well to do and important people start being imprisoned for buying or possessing cocaine and so on, consumption would drop rapidly and drug dealing would drop with it. This too will starve the criminal suppliers of income. This won't stop drug dealing but it would greatly reduce it. It won't happen because it would cost too many votes!

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