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The great California death throes.. gruesome truth revealed

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Skyhook, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. Skyhook

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    http://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/california-at-twilight/

    "California has changed not due to race but due to culture, most prominently because the recent generation of immigrants from Latin America did not — as in the past, for the most part — come legally in manageable numbers and integrate under the host’s assimilationist paradigm. Instead, in the last three decades huge arrivals of illegal aliens from Mexico and Latin America saw Democrats as the party of multiculturalism, separatism, entitlements, open borders, non-enforcement of immigration laws, and eventually plentiful state employment.
     
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    Coming soon to a country near you ... :frown:

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  3. Skyhook

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    Living in Cuomo's Peoples Republic of New Yawk, I think I am seeing it all happening right before my eyes.
    :puking:
     
  4. CAcop

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    Strange. In my mostly Hispanic city my neighbors celebrate the Fourth of July like crazy. Cinco de Mayo is pretty lame. Maybe it is the fact that I am in middle class neighborhood surrounded by working class neighborhoods. They may speak Spanish or it is first language but they are pretty Americanized. I dont spend too much time in the ghetto except at work in another city that is mostly white so the poor and recent arrivals may do things differently.
     
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    Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN:

    "In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin.

    But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all.

    We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...

    We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

    Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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  6. Skyhook

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    As in all things dealing with folks- there will be exceptions, right?
     
  7. Skyhook

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    Teddy nailed that!
     
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    "Death Throes" might be a bit premature, and contain no small amount of whimsical literary license. :whistling:

    Of course, the emphasis of rebuilding of the state's financial well-being is going to be placed upon the shoulders of the wealthier tax payers, but it just might pay off ... depending on the volatility of the stock market and business investment in the state ... but a goodly amount of such tax-payers seem as though they might feel they're getting enough benefit to make it worthwhile to remain here. Guess we'll see.

    Here's a couple of more recent articles, but there's been no shortage of them since the last election.

    http://news.yahoo.com/california-budget-plan-surprise-surplus-012349478.html

    http://news.yahoo.com/analysis-california-budget-fix-relies-good-times-rich-130443557--business.html

    If ... and that's a big IF ... the state can reign in its enthusiasm to spend the new influx of money, they might resolve some issues, even to the point of starting to repay some monies against the unfunded liabilities in the state pension system.

    What this will mean to counties and cities remains to be seen, of course.

    CA continues to do the impossible, despite detractors.
     
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  9. pugman

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    Point in fact: if California were allowed to keep annual overage it sends the federal government it could offset its deficit within 3-4 months.

    It could pay for its entire pension shortfall within ten years.

    The problem with California is a liberal state government combined with a liberal federal government.

    Its turning into a perfect storm.
     
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    It would be interesting if CA left the union. 38 million people no longer paying to the Feds more than they get back.

    I know for sure our tax bill in CA would decline. Either that or there would be a spending spree of epic porportions.
     
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    Oh, well, just when I was waxing eloquent, we see this 'denier' fly up and say the "cock crows three times" before he noticed rot when he sees it.

    Seriously, though, the bit about "CA doing the impossible.." forever seems really 'whimsical' don't it?:supergrin:
     
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    I thought California's budget problems were mostly because of city managers making $500,000 a year and public servants' extravagent pensions?
     
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    Of course, the elitist liberals who created this mess are fleeing to CO, NV, AZ, TX, etc...cluelessly turning the local governments into what they just fled from.
     
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    They are doing their best in AZ, for sure.:puking:
     
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    “Culture” in the properly anthropological sense, means “the behaviors and beliefs characteristic of a particular social, ethnic, or age group.” So if you say: “This group characteristically behaves and thinks like this because of their culture,” you are saying “they behave and think like this because this is how they behave and think.”
     
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    I was trying not strain my cheek with my firmly implanted tongue while typing that ... :rofl:

    I wasn't born in CA, but I've lived here for more than 50 years, and things are significantly different than I remember from my youth, to say the least.

    :wavey:
     
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    CA is one of the few states I think could effectively leave. Texas is a second.

    A huge ocean shoreline allows it to ship/receive goods without interference from the Fed or other states. A landlocked state like Colorado would be devastated if the fed wanted to play hardball.

    A second consideration is breaking up the state into two with Northern and Southern California forming.

    California has a good dairy and fruit economy; not sure about grains. It would definitely need to build some manufacturing infrastructure for items it mostly gets from out of state.
     
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    According to this, TX could, CA couldn't.

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    Because that miserable POS who is up there with Lincoln, Wilson and FDR to undo the limits on Presidential power and shred the Constitution is the President we go to for quotes on being a solid American.:rofl:
     
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    NV is under constant attack from Californians wanting to make NV more like the place they ruined too.