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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Kingarthurhk, Nov 26, 2012.
Why do you insist that others should have the same values as you?
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agreed, saw that animals are animals yeah we fall in love with them but thats just it they are still animals. If I could with a Minimum of risk save a pet I would do it..but if id have to honestly have to risk mine or a family members life to do so thats when you have to remember that no matter how attached we get that they are just that Animals and not worth risking life for IMO. of course others will have different opinions...thats fine...I dont insist that they agree with me...do I think its foolish to value our pets lives as much as ours yes. I think God gave humans something special he didnt give to animals...and thus I value human life over animals. (Well most human life I should say there are some that would never be worth saving but thats another subject...( im not talking criminals,dirt bags, etc or any of those types)
I read that article earlier today and quickly thought..nope id not have done that id have stopped the rest of my family from doing that either. Id have felt horrible but i also known id have made the right decision.
I've seen the DNA and I really don't think squatches can swim.
I've changed one word, but you could still apply that exact same logic. So I guess all those people who risk their lives to save strangers are a bunch of selfish A-holes too, huh?
No animal is worth risking even the most worthless human life over IMO. I love my dog and cat, but the only way I'd try to save them is if there was no risk to my life. Animals do not have a soul. Even the most worthless human has a soul and possibly one day they will come to know Jesus and be saved. No animal can ever do that.
If my pet gets sick, I can and will put a bullet in it's brain without a thought. For instance a few years ago an adult cat we adopted got leukemia. After a consult with a vet, I took it home, put a piece of it's favorite food in front of it, and while the cat was eating I put him down. Done the same to other pets over the years. Would never do something like that to a human, unless they were a threat to me or my loved ones.
I am admittedly overly attached to my pets. My wife and I are freaks who easentialy treat our pets like our kids. We loce our pets. I like my pets more than most people. I would indeed risk my life for my pets.
But the reality is this: they are not people, they are animals. As such, this fact trumps my emotions.
I feel the same way about my cats. What's weird is a few years ago I wasn't a animal person. I even called someone stupid in a old thread that died in the process of trying to save their dog.
Man how things change. I never had pets when I was a kid so I never understood the bond there was to be had with them. One little kitty came into my life and changed that. Now I can't think of life without them.
I would die saving my cats. People can call me what they will but I don't care. I was that person once and believe me I understand that they aren't able to relate or understand how we feel about it. They give us unconditional love and represent everything that us humans should be but often aren't.
I'm glad for and I'm forever grateful to that sweet little kitty that came into my life and changed me forever. God rest him.
I don't want to get into a Religious debate here but that isn't true. In fact, our pets will be with us in heaven.
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This reminds me of a hypothetical situation brought up on another forum I frequent. The situation was presented as follows:
Your community is hit by a terrible flood, and your pet dog is missing. You finally come across your dog and a complete stranger in the flood waters, and they are both about to drown. Do you save your dog, or the stranger? You can only choose to save one.
The results consisted of about half the people saying they would save their pet dog, while the other half ridiculed the first half for holding a dogs life higher than a humans. Hypotheticals are dumb so I declined to answer.
So you are saying that you wouldn't even risk Hitler or Osama's life for that of your dog who has been completely obedient, loved your family without question, and brought joy to your life?
Us animals(humans), are going to the same place as our animal cousins(dogs) when we die.....the ground. Then other animals can live and grow off of the our materials.
And that is exactly why I don't like the "would you risk your life?" type questions.
They automatically imply that you know your life is in jeopardy when you are doing the act. In most of these type of cases, where someone dies trying to save their pet, or their car, or whatever, it is because they think they are perfectly fine. Before they realize it they are then in over their heads and it is too late.
One of the things that makes me get up and go to work every day is to see the complete loyalty and trust that our cats display in me that I will provide for them.
I don't know anyone else including my wife who have that kind of complete loyalty and trust in me.
I would go to hell and back for any of our pets.
I probably wouldn't risk my life for most animals. I would for MY dogs.
OP doesn't have a clue.
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I wouldn't expect anyone else to do so. My choice.
I give complete loyalty in return for complete loyalty...and pets do just that.
This story headline could just have easily read, "Family makes bad decision, bad things happen..."
Has nothing to do with the dog. If they'd died all trying to save a child they'd still be dead and it would still be sad. If they'd saved the dog then they'd all be heroes. It has nothing to do with the dog.
Go ahead and put "going all anti-dog on GT" on the list of not the brightest ideas you've had. And what's this blather about non-vegans having ethics and priorities issues? A chicken or a cow isn't going to save me from a fire or walk 500 miles to find me. A chicken and a cow are for enjoying with other animals that will do those things, both 2 and 4 legged.
Thank you. I totally agree with fnfalman.