At a local pawn shop, I've found a black framed Taurus PT1911, the sides of the slide appear to be stainless, altho the top, back, and inside the slide serrations are black. I'm not good at telling the difference tween types of finishes.... It has ambi safties, which I'm kinda "bla" about, but the fact that they're extended is a plus for me. Novak sights. Pachmyer (sp?) rubberized grips, that are way bigger than I'd want to carry with, but they are comfy to hold. It comes with (I think) an Ed Brown 8 round mag with a thick rubber padded base. The price is $415 or 425, can't remember for sure. Should I pop? I realize that there are plenty reasons NOT to buy a Taurus 1911--it seems that you either love or hate the guns. They work, or they don't. For this price, I'm tempted to buy it as a first 1911. If it works then I'd have an ok set up for a first steel gun. If not, could I get most of my money back out of it?