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Discussion in 'Reloading' started by orgnova, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. orgnova

    orgnova

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    I wanted to try a different powder. Went out and bought some Unique to try with reloading 230 gr 45acp FMJ. Using 6.0 gr of Unique and setting OAL to 1.125. Now the bullet will not fit in the my gauge or the barrel. Well, it will fit but its real, real snug in my 1911, but will not fit in my G30. Been using HP-38 which nobody around here has in stock. I like the way the Unique feeds through the feeder though. Anybody else had this problem?
     
  2. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

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    As far as fit, I'd check your taper crimp.

    Seems like a short OAL for 6 grains of Unique. I use 6 or 6.2 grains with an OAL of 1.260" and I'm getting right at 850 fps.
     

  3. orgnova

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    My mistake, the OAL is 1.250. If I load one without the powder, it fits the gauge and the barrels fine.
     
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    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    Hey, Zombie... did ya fall off a horse in Montana or have coffee with Jane Fonda?

    Good to have you back.

    Jack
     
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    I use 230gr FMJ bullets also and also load with Unique, but I load to 1.260 and have no problems. I also use 6.0gr of powder.
    I'm confused as why you think the powder is causing the problem. The way I'm reading your post, do you think the change in powder is causing the problem??? How would the barrel know what kind of powder was in the finished round? Sounds like a sizing problem or crimping problem to me.
     
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    This is very strange:dunno: Could the powder be expanding the case when the bullet is set? Some of the experts will be along shortly to shed some light I'm sure because I have no idea.
     
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    gwalchmai Lucky Member

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    I use that same load a lot (loaded some last night, in fact), and I've never had that problem. Measure your loaded case diameters and see if you can quantify the difference.

    The only variable is the powder, correct?
     
  8. GLShooter

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    So when you do one without the powder are you belling the case? Or are you just seating a bullet in it?

    Just for giggles powder up ten of those cases with the OLD powder charge and seat the bullets then check for barrel fit. I have sneaking suspicion that your dies have moved and the crimp is causing an issue.

    Greg
     
  9. orgnova

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    GLShooter, you were probably right. I took the press apart and cleaned it. Reset all the dies and ran a few through. They now fit the gauge and the barrels of my 1911s and g30 without any problems. I say the die moved.

    Thanks for everybody's help.
    Don't you just love GT?
     
  10. DoctaGlockta

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    At 6.0 grains you are not at a compressed load so I wouldn't think your power expansion theory has much validity.

    Check your crimp. Drop one in a barrel to really see what is going on.
     
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    No, it's not compressed enough to cause that. Something is worng w/ the crimp setup if it isn't fitting the gage. If it isn't fitting the bbl, maybe the OAL is a bit long. Recheck the dies & make a dummy round. There is no diff between a dummy round fitting & a live round.
     
  12. Zombie Steve

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    Yep. Back from the land of the lawless. Jane is lucky she didn't run into us there. We might have re-created her infamous photo of her sitting on artillery. :whistling::supergrin:

    The horses treated me well. The turkey did not. :crying:
     
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    If the powder is truly the cause you have a serious overload. Pull them and check your scale.
     
  14. kshutt

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    Hey Zombie, don't feel bad. First time in a decade I haven't harvested at least one tom. Oklahoma Wildlife Dept. is considering lowering the bag limit and shortening the season next year due to the decline of the turkey population in southeast Oklahoma where I hunt. :crying:
     
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    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    They are available at Safeway, King Soopers, Albertsons, Piggly Wiggly and other fine establishments specializing in fine culinary delights.

    Cash, check or credit cards gladly accepted... no shotguns... please.

    Jack
     
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    Zombie, I've thought better of it. We need to schedule one more hunt and take Jack with us to set with...er...set up, that is, our decoys! :supergrin:
     
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    I was gonna say, the last time I shot one in the grocery store everyone started flipping out. :whistling:

    There were hens and jakes everywhere... I only saw 2 toms and couldn't get them in range. Why hunt down a loud chick if you have a harem right there?

    Sorry about the thread hijack. :embarassed:
     
  18. GLShooter

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    I had that issue years ago after a cleaning session on my dies. The first jam in a match sure gets your attention!! LOL

    I'm glad you worked it out.

    Good Shooting,

    Greg
     
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    FWIW.....I've been using my 550B for only 2 weeks...and already I've had to "tweak" and re-tighten 2 of the 4 dies that worked loose!!!
    I found out why Dillon sells that "special" wrench......!!!!:whistling:
    Even L-O-N-G nosed pliers have trouble in that tight tool head space!!!:supergrin:
     
  20. GLShooter

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    OK I'll spil the beans on the "secret" about those dies and how to fix them, assuming they are Dillon dies that is.
    First thing order in about a dozen Hornady Die Rings from Midway (they are on sale frequently) when they arrive, pull your dies, remove the Dillon rings, Set rings back in Dillon box for emergencies, install Hornady Rings, set adjustments, tighten ring,.

    Last thing -- LOAD ON MY FRIEND:rock:ND!!!!

    I started doing that on all my dies from Dillon, RCBS et al. years ago and things are much quieter now when I measure my ammo in production!!

    Greg