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switch from wheel gun snub to semi auto pistol need some advise

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by pat701, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. pat701


    Feb 2, 2005
    Beyond OZ
    I am a retired Chicago police officer. I have always carried wheel guns for 34 years. Right now i carry a S/W mod#64 2" barrel six shot 38 spl+P. I would like to switch over to a semi auto in 9mm for carry. I would like a full sized grip so i can shoot with all 4 fingers and not get bit by the slide while firing. In 34 yrs i have never needed to have to display my mod# 64 here in Chicago off duty or retired. So i hope and pray i won't need it in the future. I am looking to spend about $500 and i feel as 10 rounds is fine for me, as i never needed my 6 rounds. I like the idea of DA/SA with a decocker, i think that would me me feel the must confident to carry with a round in the chamber. But i am very open to other options of different types of semi autos. I carry inside the pants, in front of me on right side i am right handed. Please help this old law dog make some choices as to what is should look at at a gun store. I have arthritis in my hands so recoil is also a factor thats why i am looking at 9MM. The Sig SP2022 has caught my eye. I have fired XD's and am not crazy about the striker fired semi autos. Buy i can read and learn about DAO and DAK. I did learn and qualify with a colt 45 acp when i was on the job. Please point me in the right direction as to what to rent at the gun shop.
  2. HeliGlock

    HeliGlock HeliGlock

    Jan 16, 2011
    Congrats on your Retirement. I would go for the 9mm in a Sig or Glock, very low Recoil and Comfortable in the Hand. I too have arthritis in both hands, worse in my right. just my 2 cents. Good Luck Pat701.

  3. Dave.1


    Dec 12, 2009
    I made the switch from revolvers to auto in 2008. Still like the double action pull though.

    If you don't mind going used you can get a S&W 3rd Generation 5906 DA/SA for $300 at CDNN. They have a decocker/safety.

    It's a 15 round magazine and all stainless and a little on the heavy side but not bad if you're used to carrying a revolver. They can probably be found locally for a little more money.

  4. Fastbear


    Dec 21, 2007
    Lots of options in the 9mm arena, but for reasonable price check into the Glock 19 for a comfortable, reliable gun to carry. I am qualified to carry the Glock 21, 30 and 19. You may elect to go to a rental range and try shooting different guns for your comfort level. I started out carrying the Colt 1911 and later switched to the Glocks. Depending on the job requirements the 19 gets carried more often than not.
  5. barth

    barth six barrels

    Oct 7, 2011
    The Free Zone
    +1 on that.
    Sig / Glock are both great.
    Sig has a DAK Double Action Kellerman that's something like a revolver.
    I have a P239/357 DA/SA that's totally sweet.
    Has no recoil with 357, so 9mm would have to be a kitty cat to shoot.

    In Glock a G19 with a EOM "-" connector and an NY1 spring is suppose to be
    very revolver like.

    H&K P2000SK is very nice too.
    The enhanced LEM/CDA trigger system combines the reliability of a double-action revolver trigger with the crisp, precise trigger of a single-action pistol.

    Personally, If I was in the market for a 9mm, full grip, SD gun?
    I'd take a hard look at Walthers new PPQ.
    (although the 5lbs short reset trigger may be more my speed than yours - LOL)

    Best advise is make a short list, go to a range and rent/borrow some guns.
    Only you can tell if you favor the ergonomics.
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  6. HexHead


    Jul 16, 2009
    Glock 19, and put the NY1 trigger spring in it. If you were comfortable carrying a revolver, it will feel very much the same to you. The lighter weigh of the polymer frame will offset much of the extra ammo weight. Trigger will feel very revolver like. You won't need a de-cocker since you didn't mind carrying your revolver with one in the chamber.

    I doubt you'll find a rental one with a NY trigger in it. Know any NYC cops?
  7. B-One

    B-One Millennium Member

    Sep 15, 1999
    These days I seem to be going the opposite direction that you are moving. I'd be happy and comfortable with the model 64. That said, there is nothing wrong with any of the 9mm's that you mentioned, as well as others. Try a bunch if you can and get one that feels good.

    I've carried a Glock 19 for 20+ years, but must admit to having a real deep emotional attachment to revolvers. Despite the fact that the Glock fits me reasonably well, is lighter than my GP, holds two and a half times the amount of ammo that is arguably as effective, I find myself carrying a revolver more and more lately. While the Glock feels fine, a revolver with the right stock just feels better.

    I am interested in why would you like to change after 34 years? Realize that "just because" is a more than acceptable answer.
  8. kahrcarrier

    kahrcarrier FAHRENHEIT

    Jan 8, 2004
    Southern IN
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  9. ca survivor

    ca survivor

    Dec 25, 2011
    H&K P2000SK is very nice too.


    this will be my DA/SA
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  10. In my opinion the Glocks are perfect transitions from revolvers to semi autos.
    It basically requires no real learning process because it is simply a gun that you pull the trigger on when you want to shoot it.
    Just like a revolver.
    No external controls to learn.
    Simple, and yet reliable. Just like a revolver.
  11. Bruce M

    Bruce M

    Jan 3, 2010
    S FL
    If you really want a decocker then the Sig P239 may be a nice choice. If you can get comfortable without the decocker then the $398 Glock 19 is almost certainly going to be the most cost effective choice among anything that is accepted by various agencies. And a Smith and Wesson M&P probably should be considered also and is available with a safety.
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  12. pat701


    Feb 2, 2005
    Beyond OZ
    I "hope" to sell my home in the city and move to Tenn, or Arkansas. My wife has shown interest in getting a CCW where ever we move. I was going to give her the S/W 64. My son is a U.S. Border Patrol agent. And rides me about a wheel gun. But i am 57 and getting older and i know how the old and young are easy targets for the thugs to victimize. Don't get me wrong i gave my son a Sig P220ST (because he is my kid and can shot it for years to come) it was a made in Germany lower. I also gave him an XD40 sub compact (to much recoil, and the slide cut the crap out of the web of my hand.) but i did feel comfortable with the decocker on the P220ST.
    I tried to make the transition to semi auto but gave up. Maybe i am bored and need a new toy, who knows. I have got a lot of recommendations for the Glock 19 i will definitely try that one out on a rental.
  13. barth

    barth six barrels

    Oct 7, 2011
    The Free Zone
    I'm turning 55 in days and don't buy any of that stuff for a second - LOL.
    7 handguns (3 revolvers and 4 autos) and 20+ years of CC experience.
    DA/SA, DAO, Striker, 1911 - whatever...

    I carry a G27 with Storm Lake Barrel and Ghost Rocket 3.5 short reset connector most often these days.
    But that's just me...
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  14. Nestor

    Nestor Lean & Mean

    Jul 13, 2003
    If You are looking for the easy transition from the S&W trigger to S&W take a look at SIG DAK pistols and SIG P250 as well. Stock Glock trigger is not similar at all to the quality wheelgun.
  15. barth

    barth six barrels

    Oct 7, 2011
    The Free Zone
    I really think a stainless/alloy P239/9mm DAK is the ultimate choice.
    Superior to a P250 IMHO
  16. Maybe try the Ruger SR9c. It's got a 3" barrel but you can have the full size handle you want. This is a striker fired gun but it does have a slide safety.
  17. Lampshade


    May 11, 2010
    I agree that a DAO with no external controls is a good means of transition.

    OP, check out the Sig P250... hammer fired, DAO, with a long but very smooth pull. There are also the striker fired DAO Kahr pistols, which also have a similar trigger despite being striker fired.
  18. Kaybe


    Sep 30, 2009
    Thank you for your service and congrats on the retirement. Hard to say which would be best for you. Alot of good guns out there. If you can, go to a gun store and feel up a bunch of guns. Feeling is free. Find out what is comfortable for you. Some places, you can rent and try them out. Do that if you can. Stick with the major brands-HK, Glock, S &W, Ruger, Springfield Armory and so on. It will be worth the research before you put your hard earned money down.
  19. craig19


    Aug 13, 2010
    NE Ohio
    Congrats on the retirement. You would qualify for Glock's first responder program. That's how I got my two Glocks. I think the 19 was $418 OTD with three mags. I would really recommend getting a 19, the grip is a good size, and you have 15+1 capacity.

    Someone above mentioned a 5906, those are great guns, a little heavy, and its a full size. I carry mine on occasion, but in an OWB hoslter, and only when I have a large jacket to wear over it. You could also look at the 6906, its close in size to the Glock 19, but carries 12+1. CDNN has those for $340, but with 1 mag.
  20. TN.Frank

    TN.Frank Glock4Life

    Oct 11, 2004
    Avondale, AZ.
    You said it all right there pard, you never needed the 6 you had so stick with the 64 or pick up a 642 for CCW/EDC and use the extra money for more ammo, speedloaders, grips, holsters or whatever else you need. I've been a revolver guy most all of my life but got caught up by the semi-auto bug there for a few years. Just now getting back to my roots by going revolver again. If you must spend the money on a semi then check out Summit Gun Brokers and see what Mark has in stock. He had some CPO Sig 2340's for around $345, of course you'll have your FFL fees to add to that but still, for a Sig that's an awesome deal. He also gets a few other good semis in stock from time to time, just need to keep an eye on his web site. Bud's Gun Shop is another good place to look for something and they even have a used gun section where you might find a pretty good deal. Good luck with your search and keep us posted as to what you get. :cool: