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SW1911A1 or Colt Government

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by Kona2004, Mar 6, 2010.

  1. Kona2004

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    I'm trying to decide what to get for my first 1911, which will basically serve as a range gun and just something else to add to the collections. I'd like to stay under a grand and found the following two that will fall below budget. Any suggestions or recommendations on either of these?

    S&W SW1911A1 (model # 108282) - $860
    Colt Government (model # O1091) - $805
     
  2. danlee36

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    I personally think a good first 1911 for the money in the models you're looking at would be a Springfield. You could get a mil-spec for a few hundred less than those, or a Loaded for around the same price. Their customer service is one of the best in the industry, and you can make it a project gun or learn from it. Just something worth checkin out at least.
     


  3. zdragon23c

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    if this is your first 1911.....get the S&W 108282. You will thank later.
    i have had the exact model for over a year and a half....basically a zero maintenance(except for routine fieldstrip cleaning and oiling) and out-of-the-box zero issue 1911.
     
  4. danlee36

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    I also just don't personally like the child proof "warning" label on the SW1911's lol
     
  5. Annoyedgrunt

    Annoyedgrunt Dry Heat my ASS

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    I would go with the Colt if I were you, but I admit to being a little Colt-biased because I have one- a WWI repro 1911 that has been flawless to shoot, and the fit, finish, and machining have to be seen to be believed. It makes my Springfield Mil-Spec (an excellent pistol in its own right) seem like a cheap copy.

    And (for me, anyway) I'd get a Colt for the historical angle. Nothing against S&W, but they've only been making them since 2003 while Colt has been at it since, well, 1911. It may or not mean much to others, but it's nice to have a pistol with the same heritage as the pistols that our boys in Belleau Wood and Iwo Jima carried. :patriot:
     
  6. I'm a big anti-fan of external extractors on 1911s, so the S&W and SIG are never on my short list.

    The Colt Combat Elite is available (on-line for less than $900) and offers most features folks like in a 1911 these days (BT grip safety, larger sights, tighter fit), and it's downright handsome!

    In any case, I prefer the Colt to the S&W.
     
  7. kilroy2721

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    While I have had both types of 1911's (internal & external extractor), I have NEVER had a problem with any of the S&W's. I also have the paticular model you are looking at the 108282. It is a good model. Don't use it any more as I have gone back to the Glock 21sf for the CDP division in IDPA.
     
  8. bac1023

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    You're getting more for the money with S&W, but the Colt will hold its value better.

    Both are good, just different.
     
  9. Cobra64

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    I don't either.

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    Seriously, my 108284 is extremely accurate, flawless reliability, and has a tailored appearance. Cost: about $1k.


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  10. Navitimer

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    I'm a Colt fan and would go with the Government model. Beautiful 1911 (and the original 1911 manufacturer) without all the crazy serrations. I should also say that I like the old school hammer grip safety.
     
  11. BOGE

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    You´re in luck that the new S&W Titanium FP model sans needless extra safety garbage is now available. It is in essence a ¨Series 70¨ type 1911 albeit without internal extractor. If I were looking for a new Smith 1911 it´d be this one. The ONLY issue is that S&W did NOT use the larger & more reliable extractor as issued on their Performance Ctr. models.
     
  12. Cobra64

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    I have not had an issue with either extractor.


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  13. BOGE

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    http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=211382&highlight=extractor
     
  14. I'd go with the Colt but I will admit I'm a little biased. I've heard nothing but good things about the Smith's but I've had zero problems with the two that I own. I was going to sell the one but just couldn't bring myself to do it, in fact, now I'm looking for a Commander!

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  15. rottboy_8

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    HI
    As for 1911's, I seem to like them all, some more than others, but if I have a bountyful supply of cash, would get them all.
    Have never come across a Colt I didn't like, but then again, after shooting a couple of S&W Performance Center revolvers last Sunday at a match, their 1911's should be in the same quality level.
    My current Colts are very accurate and tight (both used). Be warned that once the "bug has bitten", one won't be enough!!!!
     
  16. Cobra64

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    I know what you mean. :)


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  17. bac1023

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    I'm not really sure I'd use accurate and tight to describe Colt 1911s.

    Compared to a Glock, sure. However, by 1911 standards I don't agree.

    I do think they're very well built, but Colts are usually fairly loose compared to many others.
     
  18. Cobra64

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    Surprisingly enough, this WWI reproduction has relatively little slide slop, but the barrel to barrel bushing is loosy-goosy. It does lock up tight though.

    A few days ago we bench rested for accuracy, and at 15 yards it was consistenly shooting 5" groups.

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  19. MD357

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    Frame to slide fit ~5% MAYBE of total accuracy. Otherwise it would be VERY hard to prove that vertical lockup is any better or worse than other makes in terms of factory specs.