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Suggest a bulls eye 22 for $300

Discussion in 'Rimfire Forum' started by ithaca_deerslayer, May 7, 2012.


  1. ithaca_deerslayer

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    Any suggestions for a good, and affordable, .22 handgun for bulls eye competition?

    I'm thinking maybe a Ruger 22/45, only based on trying one from 15 years ago that someone else let me try for a few competitions. I don't know if they are stock good nowadays or not.

    Will be red dotted.

    Is $300 too low a purchase price for a good gun?

    Here's where me and my wife are right now:
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    The above 10 shot targets are from shooting 1 handed with this hard trigger top heavy grip mounted 2206 at 50 feet. The below pic with the gun shows a 1 handed 5 shot group on left at 50 feet, and the right target is 2 handed 25 yards just for the fun of it.
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    Any suggestions on an affordable good shooter that will help us in trying to close up our bulls eye groups a little bit? She is new at it (new at this particular type of 1 handed shooting), so her groups will probably soon close on their own. My groups are stuck :rofl:
     

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    The latest 22/45s can accept regular 1911 grips, have a Picitinny(sp) rail on the receiver, and the barrel is threaded. Magazine release is placed for the right hand thumb behind the trigger guard. Definitely a contender. Charles


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  3. Alizard

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    Just buy a nice used Ruger Mk II. You will love it.
     
  4. Cwlongshot

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    I agree. Go for a used Rugwr MKII or III bull.

    Great guns lots of support for better grips and triggers and cheap mags.
    I have been shooting bullseye for 25 years and many will work but $ for $ this are a excellent choice!

    CW
     
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    22/45...

    Should you decide later that you want to shoot steel or other disciplines that require a speedy reload, the 22/45 is *much easier*. Not saying it can't be done with a plain old Mark II but it's easier with a 22/25.
     
  6. guncats

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    Ruger will require trigger upgrade, so it will be over the $300 limit.

    A used buckmark fits the budget better.

    However, pretty soon you will probably upgrade to either the SW41 or somekind of vintage highstandard or browning. Might as well to go all-out right away and save the headaches.
     
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    If you are just shooting bullseye .22, I'd see if cdnn still had any ow the walther sp22 m3 or m4 pistols left in stock.

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  8. concretefuzzynuts

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  9. ithaca_deerslayer

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    $300 is just a goal approximation for the purchase price. Upgrades on tgat basic gun could come later if needed.

    Is the stock Ruger trigger terrible, or is it usable as is? Is a trigger job a drop in new aftermarket trigger, or is it a gunsmithing thing?

    Used isn't likely unless I tripped over one in a gun store.

    Seems a big jump to the price of a 41 :)
     
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    I have found the mrk III for around $300 in the local gun trader. As far as trigger, a lot can be done to improve any trigger is just polishing the works. You don't need a gunsmith for that. I don't think the trigger is bad anyway. But for bullseye you'd need to have trigger work done on most anything you buy for that price.
     
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    Its a drop in part (sear) for the Mklll trigger upgrade, although the disassembly is a bit involved. It doesn't take any particular skill but you have to study up before hand. While you're in there you can also take out the magazine disconnect and replace it with a washer (this is assuming an Mklll) and of course yank out the LCI/dirt collector. It is absolutely worth the $25 to do this upgrade.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/380716/volquartsen-target-sear-ruger-mark-ii-mark-iii-22-45-stainless-steel
     
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    For under $300, simple answer - a S&W 22a-1. Accurate, very simple takedown, good trigger, adjustable sights, built-in rail and you'll have $50 leftover for ammo. It's one of the best bang-for-your-bucks firearms in the shooting world today. And from what I've seen the only difference between it and a S&W 41 is the shooter pulling the trigger.
     
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    By buying a better gun, you can get the same accuracy out of cheaper ammo, you end up saving $$ in the long run. if you get to save 1 cent per round, assuming you shoot 200rd per week, that is $100 saving on ammo per year. I am sure the SW41 lasts a lot longer than 7 years. :cool:


    SW41 might look like a lot of $ for now, but if you are serious about the game, I predict you WILL get one in less than one ear. :cool:
     
  16. ithaca_deerslayer

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    We might hold off a year. It is good to get all the opinions here. Also will be good if my wife gets into bulls eye and tries some other setups along the way.

    My "buy now cheap" intention was just to make it more enjoyable, by helping her to shoot better. But we can wait a year.

    Maybe then it will be a 41, or a Beretta 87, or whatever. Or maybe we will stumble across a good deal on a 22/45 :)
     
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    Ok couple more things...

    The shooter makes the shots. A good shooter is just that a person that shoots good the gun doesn't make that happen the shooter does. To achieve that you need allot of practice! If your in a club or joining a club pay attention to what peoples scores are. Then once you know who the good shooters are watch what they do.

    The best shooters know consistancy is tantamount to good scores. You get there by creating good habits to start with. Find someone who knows whats going on and is willing to show you. Breathing, stance, trigger control and sight alignment are all working toga that to put hits on paper in The scoring rings.

    Practice practice practice is worlds more important than what you shoot.

    I like the 22/45 for what it is. A plinker. Same as the 22a S&W. But they are too light for serious bullseye. Again look around at what others are shooting. I gaurenty top shooters will have a European pistol. Maybe some older gents will still be shooting High Standards. A couple may have a S&W 41. But none will have Mosquitos, trail sides. Neos, 22/45's or S&W 22A pistols or 22 conversions on CF pistols. There is good reason for that.

    The Browning or Ruger are excellent choices. I recommended the Ruger because the after market supports it very well and a new shooter can go a long way with one. A additional choice but one that's more and more costly is a used high standard. But you should look at the better models. Again Harder to find and more costly.
    There are a couple good 1911 22 conversions that can be made to shoot very well but you will be over your budget.

    Around here a good used Ruger MKII is under $300 easy. YES the factory trigger is entirely useable AS IS! Get a grip first. Bullseye is one handed and a good grip is important.


    I have been at this game a long time, I have had this conversation over a hundred times thru the years. It's a great sport and one that pays off in spades for all shooting sports.

    Best of luck with it,
    CW
     
  18. eyelikeglasses

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    I'll just go ahead and say it.
    "Just save the extra $10,000 up, get something made in gold. Trust me."
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    I bet a pawn shop would have a used Mk II for a bit under budget.
     
  19. ithaca_deerslayer

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    I posted the targets, and the gun, so you can see where we are right now. Those are slower paced shots, maybe making the 4 seconds per shot; mine are maybe too slow.

    In one thought you seem to be saying buy a more expensive gun; but in another thought you are saying buy a less expensive gun because it is just the shooter that is important.

    So, looking at those targets, do we need to bother with a better gun yet, or do we just need a plinker to work on developing better skills with first?
     
  20. RedHaze

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    I may be biased, but I vote for an other Hi Standard that's floating around.

    My HD Military is scary accurate with match ammo. They can be found for not much more than your benchmark. Couple on GB now and then.

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    And there's a Lightweight Sport King on GB right now at ~$350
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=285784341

    It's certainly got some wear, but I'd bet money any day of the week it's a great shooter!

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