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Sub 5" 1911's

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by 3rdgen40, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. 3rdgen40

    3rdgen40 .45 fanatic

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    I am thinking about getting a RIA "Commander" model with a 4 inch barrel.Are the shorter slides really as reliable as 5 inch ? Does that extra quarter inch in the true Commander size 4.25 inch make any difference?
     
  2. BlayGlock

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    I carried that exact model starting out and never had any problems with good magazines.
     


  3. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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    As long as it's NOT a Baer!:whistling:

    Manufacturers all have their dogs.
     
  4. outcast1911

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    I carry and shoot a Springfield Champion everyday, 4 years and the only malfunction was ammo(reloads/very light load).
     
  5. HexHead

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    I've had three Commander size 1911s and a Govt. size and they were all equally reliable. As was my 3".

    The 4.25" ones will have a bushing, 4" is typically a bull barrel. I prefer the bushing.
     
  6. drc767

    drc767 Navy CSAR

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    Most people will tell you the 5" is most reliable, the 4/4.25" are pretty reliable, and anything below 4" can go either way...... That is, everything else being equal except slide length.
     
  7. Olympus

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    I have two Commanders and they are my favorite guns. Reliability isn't even a concern to me anymore.


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  8. PlasticGuy

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    Says who? My Les Baer Concept VII was a fantastic shooter. I sold it in a fit of stupidity, and missed it so much that I recently replaced it with a stainless Baer Stinger. The Stinger shoots just as good as my old Concept VII.

    While it's a little more difficult for a builder to make a 4.25" 1911 reliable, it can be done. The 3.5" 1911's are much more finicky in my experience, but that's not what we're talking about here.
     
  9. I have always prefered the commander size models. They just feel right to me. I've never had any issues with mine.
     
  10. Ruggles

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    Baer is somewhat infamous among the groups of companies he is most associated with (Wilson, Nighthawk and Brown) for build commander sized guns that are built to specs the others do not used. Many of his 4 1/4" guns will not "slingshot" because of this (I know mine did not) while the other makers will. There have been wide spread and varied reports for a long time of reliability issue (again mine had some) with his 4 1/4" guns and this is often the reason blamed. Not saying his builds are not great just what some would say. I would buy a 5" Baer but not a 4 1/4" Baer because of my past experience.

    I would also say 3" 1911s ( I have owned 5 altogether) can indeed have reliability issues that a 5" 1911 does not. Like anything else once you start modifying anything (in this case the 5" design) it can lead to issues.

    I personally have a 4" that has had no issues and a number of 4 1/4" that have not either so I draw " my line" at 4" for a 1911. There are a ton of folks who have had great luck with 3" 1911s as well. :wavey:
     
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  11. I have a sig rcs that is my usual carry. No problems.
     
  12. tango44

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    Colt Commanders 4.25 barrel, no problems at all!
     
  13. Hokie1911

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    500 rounds through my Kobra Carry. Zero malfunctions.
     
  14. Gdirty5

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    No problems with my sa loaded champion. It has a bull barrel with feed ramp.
     
  15. I have two 3" 1911s and they both run great, so I imagine you'll be fine with the 4" RIA.

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  16. polizei1

    polizei1 It WAS Quack

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    My 3" runs great after a little tweaking was done. The extractor was so loose from the factory, it wouldn't hold a round.
     
  17. Road Dog

    Road Dog Senior Member Millennium Member

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  18. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr DirtyThirty fan CLM

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  19. G27RR

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    Of the ones I have owned...

    Recommended:
    4.15"
    STI Ranger II .45
    STI Ranger II 9mm

    3"
    STI Shadow .45
    STI Escort .45

    Not recommended:
    4"
    Kimber Super Carry Pro