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Strictly a worse case scenario rifle.

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  1. Teecher45

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    Looking for a rifle (preferably in .308) for nothing but SHTF and range gun. I have more than a few .308 FMJ's lying around and like the round.
    I'm looking at the Kel-Tec RFB. Anyone heard anything about them lately?
    Are they easy to find now?
    Street price?
    Reliable?
    Any better ideas for around $1500?
    Don't want a full-sized battle rifle, like an M1A or Garand. Thanks...
     

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  2. GeorgiaRedfish

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    for around 1.5k? No
    But the FN SCAR 17s sure is sweet looking.
     

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    I like Kel Tec's innovative designs and think they are neat toys, I have a mess of them. I just don't see that robust, made for hard use, design in Kel Tec weapons. If my life was on the line I'd opt for a different rifle. Maybe an FNAR or a RRA LAR-8, they seem to be a bit more robust.
     
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    Since you are set on a .308 for 1500 I would go one of two ways. I would get either a DPMS AP4 308 and customize the hell out of it with the money that's left over. If not the DPMS I would get a M1a SOCOM and customize it! Both are small (for the .308) carbines. I have a DPMS .308 and love it, but I would also love a M1a SOCOM! The .308 keeps most of it's velocity at 16 inches. However, you don't want to go any shorter than that with a .308.
     
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    No. You could get a decent AR10 and a barely decent scope for that price.
     
  6. Teecher45

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    I have a Colt LE 6920. I would like to go another way. No FNAR, I don't like the fact that I have to send it back to them to clean after 1,000 rds.
    I have to admit I am a little interested in the SOCOM II, however I have heard they (as is all M1A's) are very ammo finicky, slam-fires and all. Do they only fire 7.62 NATO ball? I don't know, maybe just rumors?
     
  7. PlasticGuy

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    The RFB is a cool design, but has a reputation for being fragile. Personally, I would never spend $1500 on anything made by Kel-Tec.

    For that money, you could get a PTR or a DSA STG. Both are fantastic rifles.
     
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    sadly from what i have read over the years i would prefer an ak.
     
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    To the OP:

    If you have an LE 6920 you already have one of the best SHTF weapons available. The LE 6920 is my goto rifle as well even though I do have an M1A and others. 308 is nice but the weapons and ammo are really heavy. I can fire the 6920 quite effectively with just one hand. There is no way I can pull that off with an M1a or any other 308. So as far as SHTF I think you are set with the 6920. I would keep it and add the 308 for versatility in your collection.

    Personally I really like the DPMS M4 style carbine in 308. I do not own one but have seen them in action. They seem to be reliable enough and much easier to add optics than most other 308 service rifles.

    In the M1a department, I would go with the scout/squad version and not the Socom. The Socom's 16 inch tube just loses too much velocity in 308. IMO the scout/squad length is the ideal comprimise for your purpose.

    Good luck with your selection!
     
  10. jp3975

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    How about a Saiga for...dont they run about $600?
     
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    If you are wanting a 308. About the only thing in semi auto you will find will be along the lines of a full sized battle rifle. With you price point, and caliber you desire for the roll you want you are kinda limited on your choices. Might check out the dpms line of 308 m4esk rifles, maybe a FAL, or ar10. As far as keltec goes, IMO they really dont scream durable to me. I beleive M1a's and FN's are outta the price point. If you can swing it though the scar looks pretty appealing
     
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    Kel-Tec RFB would be my pick for you, but I havent heard much about them.
     
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    rem 700 sps tactical. best 550 rifle made. and with the money you save, you get a nice tactical scope.

    well, maybe it's not what you want, but it's what i want. :cool:
     
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    DSA FAL in 18" Para folder.
     
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  17. D3S3RT_P3NGU1N

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    +1 on this, or possibly a scout squad M1A

    You could even turn it into a bullpup later if you really wanted to :supergrin:

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  18. snwbrdr435

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    What about that new ruger scout rifle.
     
  19. Myke_Hart

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    A perfect one for you would be a LAR-8

    I have a Rock River LAR-8 that I purchased recently for $1000 brand new.

    They come with one mag and no sights (A4) with a blow mold case.

    They are one of the few rifles that can use metric or inch magazines (FAL/L1A1 mags), This mean you can buy surplus FAL/L1A1 magazines on the cheap! (Yes, I have tested both metric and inch in this gun reliably.)

    Rock River LAR-8 Standard A4.. as purchased.
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    I have since added a long range scope to mine. But you can add iron sites, red dot, scope or both.
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    Talk about a tack driver!:supergrin:
     
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    I've got A LOT of rounds through my M1A and I've never had a slam fire, FTF/E/Fire/extract/etc. Its ran 100% true since day one. I roll my own ammo and use CCI primers, winchester brass, hornady bullets, and varget powder. In regards to its pickiness with ammo, its about the powder charge and burn rate that decides how well it treats the rifle. I believe American Eagle manufactures a .308 cartridge specifically made for the M1A/M14 if you like to buy factory ammo. YMMV.
     
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