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Storing Antibiotics

Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by USMC_G19, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. USMC_G19

    USMC_G19 Ham Salad

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    What is the consensus in stockpiling pet meds for human use in the event we can’t run down to Walgreens to pick up a prescription for amoxicillin? From what I have read the pills are the same as those for human consumption, just labeled differently for legal reasons. And if you were to go that route would storing them in a deep freeze extend their shelf life past the expiration date?


    http://www.calvetsupply.com/category/s?keyword=antibiotic
     
  2. John Rambo

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    Yes. And yes.

    Heat and moisture destroy antibiotics. Keep them cool and dry and they'll last longer. There may be some exceptions as some may have an ingredient or two that don't react well to freezing, but for the most part they should be safe to freeze and it will greatly extend their shelf life. Just take a whole lot of care to make sure frost/ice doesn't develop on them.
     


  3. houseflipper

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    I was told dark cool place (not freezing). Refrigerator in a black plastic bag for mine, if I had any.
     
  4. John Rambo

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    Many of the ingredients in antibiotics involve freezing in the prep process. For the most part, it won't hurt them. Obviously, there are bound to be exceptions. Rather than a plastic bag, consider something like a container with a rubber gasket and some of the silica crystals in it. You really need to keep the moisture off of them or that cold does little good.
     
  5. USMC_G19

    USMC_G19 Ham Salad

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    So something like a small metal container with a good seal. Im assuming that one should wait for it to come to room temp before opening to reduce the risk of condensation on the meds.
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2012
  6. houseflipper

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    They are sealed in the original bottles but I can always up the protection. If I had any.
     
  7. FH Alum

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    What about food saver style vac seal bags? This would keep out moisture and O2.

    Also, remember it was not until the 80's that drugs had to have an expiration date. Most will be ok for a long time if stored smartly.
     
  8. garyo

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    I agree with FH, if stored smartly they will last a very long time. I have used 1% cortizone creme over 5 years old, and it worked perfectly. Also used some wart remover over 10 years old and it worked fine. Most of my analgesics are over the expiration date, and they work just fine also. Of topic, but just a quick note about bleach expiration. I have been experimenting with very old bleach that I have. It may not be full power and you can smell that it is not, so I just add a tad bit more to what ever I am doing and it also works just fine. Very little ever gets tossed at my house. Rotation is key, which explains why I have so much old stuff.
     
  9. nursetim

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    Not medical advice, I wouldn't take old tetracycline as it can turn poisonous.
     
  10. Mr.Pliskin

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    Does doxycycline also turn poisonous? Ive heard it both ways.
     
  11. garyo

    garyo Millennium Member

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    During some research I found this guy. He seems sincere and does seem to know what he is talking about.

    http://www.doomandbloom.net/archives

    Fish antibiotics youtube by him also:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhKNZInFvpQ"]Fish Antibiotics in a Collapse by Dr Bones - YouTube[/ame]

    All this stuff is available from Amazon.
     
  12. be aware that the livestock and pet meds have differing pH levels based on their needs. if it differs from humans, and most do, there is a strong possibility of developing abcesses at the injection site as your body tries to fight off the meds. fish antibiotics are neutral pH as they are designed to be placed in the water.

    that said, i do know alot of older horsemen who use some oral meds available for horses with no issues, but the pH abcess info came from a friend of mine who is a vetrinarian.
     
  13. Liff

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    Sealed, Dry, Dark, and Cool.

    Oxygen is bad, water is bad, light is bad, and high temperature is bad.

    Think of medicine like you think of milk, just with a different time frame.

    Milk in the jug loses some of the vitamins due to the light compared to the cardboard 1/2 gallon size. Milk lasts longer in the refrigerator than on the countertop. If you put the cap back on, the milk lasts longer too.

    And this is the most important: Milk is not good one day and bad the next (black or white), it goes through a continuum from good to bad, just like medicine, just like all other chemicals, just like food in storage, just like shoes as you wear them down, just like our bodies wear out.
     
  14. RWBlue

    RWBlue Mr. CISSP, CISA CLM

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    I don't think I will be injecting anything.

    How does the pH impact oral antibiotics?