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Storing a cheapo pistol under the seat?

Discussion in 'Moto Club' started by DaisyCutter, Jul 31, 2007.

  1. DaisyCutter

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    I've considered several times storing a pistol under the seat of my bike. I'd likely choose something cheap and small, like a Makarov.

    Is it a realistic safety precaution, since I really couldn't access it "fast"? FWIW, I have a CCW permit, so there's no legal issue.
     
  2. Tennessee Slim

    Tennessee Slim Señor Member CLM

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    Leaving it under the seat gives you better odds than leaving it in the dresser drawer.
     


  3. wolfy692005

    wolfy692005 pro tinkerer

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    i am not exactly sure what voltage does or doesnt do to firearms but i think most bikes have the battery under the seat right???
    just a thought
     
  4. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Nerd

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    I don't carry when I ride, because I don't want a gun beating my ribs or hip in a fall, also I wear proper fitting zip-together leathers which don't leave room for one. I really don't like going around unarmed.

    I suppose under-the-seat might be helpful in the situation where you're approaching the parked bike and some scumbag starts taking an interest in you. Once on the bike, you can usually get away from trouble even in stopped heavy traffic.

    Still I might also consider adding a cheap pistol under the seat....heck the ZRX has room enough for a shortened long-gun!
     
  5. stmcelroy

    stmcelroy Holster Maker

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    I always carry in my magnetic tank bag, then when I reach my destination casual switch my S&W 340PD into my right front pocket.

    I try not to leave home without at least my little S&W pocket rocket.:supergrin:

    Steve
     
  6. ndbullet500

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    Why not just carry them normally? I was on my way to the range when a lady pulled out....WHACK!

    Sig 232 in Fobus OWB under leather jacket.
    Kel-Tec P32 in front pocket holster (I think in my jacket, maybe jeans).

    Other than looking like Poncho Villa afterwards laying there in the street, it wasn't too bad. The Fobus (one of the more recent ones with a metal reinforcing bar at the rivets and a rubber insert on the paddle) retained the Sig just fine. Even though the holster has some obvious road rash, the pistol was not damaged at all. That is normally just my range holster, but I was pleased with it to the point that I hold it in higher regard now.

    The Kel-Tec was also fine and in the holster as placed before collision. Other than mentioning that there was a gun on my hip when I was still laid out in the middle of the road, it was no big deal. I don't think the cops even asked for my permit when they returned the cleared firearms after I was able to get to my feet.
     
  7. Carlitos

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    Normal carry w/ a CCW is your best option. BUT - if anyone insists on under the seat gun, the Makaroz is a good choice. Design is loosely based on Walther PPK; of course all the 1911 fans will now howl (1911 is not cheap) and the Mak caliber, while underpowered, is better than nothing. Try Cor Bon ammo
     
  8. DaisyCutter

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    I do carry IWB most of the time, but sometimes I go places where I can't take the gun... and I'm not savvy 'bout tossing the Kimber or Glock under the seat.
     
  9. ndbullet500

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    Good point about the high $ firearms.

    There are two pistols that I personally own that I would consider for your purpose. Both should be easily available for $150 or less in VG condition.

    1. CZ-52 (7.62x25) loaded with Wold Golf JHPs. A 1600 fps JHP...I think that would be adequate for most purposes. It is almost the size of a 1911 though. It is a robust and reliable design with few significant weaknesses other than brittle original firing pins that shouldn't be dry-fired and a decocker that has a reputation for being an extra trigger (although it functions perfectly on my 1953 & 1954, nor have I ever broken a firing pin for that matter).

    2. F.E.G. PA-63 (9mm Mak). Much less powerful than a CZ-52. A copy of a Walther PPK, a $15 sping swap for new recoil and hammer springs transforms this little pistol from a hand slapper into a pleasant little shooter, although the DA is still heavy. At distances of 10 yards or less, the stars align for me with this cheap little pistol, and I am more accurate consistanly than with any other handgun. Beyond 10 yards it's not bad, but nothing special. Ball ammo feeds 100% in the two I own, but JHP hangs on the 2nd round on one of them.

    I'm sure there are others, but I own these and am familiar with them. As for practical use...well, as already said, it's better than at home, but I suspect most instances where they would be needed are quickly developing and without warning. It would be comforting in a dodgy area with an empty gas tank or flat tire though.
     
  10. Now millions of perps will be looking under the seats of motor cycles across the U.S.A.!

    :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

    Car safe
     
  11. ndbullet500

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    I'm sure the "perps" will all run out and start ripping seats off as soon as they finish reading the "cheapo pistol" thread in the Moto Club forum within the Vehicle Related Forum section of The Club House on Glocktalk. Maybe they will get caught by the po-po. :nailbiting:

    I hear a similar crime wave was unleased in the 1930s when Robert Fulton Jr. rode around the world on his Douglass and revealed he had a .38 hidden on the machine. The reissue of his book One Man Caravan also likey caused many Douglass motorcycles to be targeted by perps.
     
  12. Corso0331

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    I went down on my bike with my SW 340pd a few years back. The gun was carried at aprrox. 4o'clock IWB. Considering my broken collarbone I really didn't notice if my side hurt from the gun when I fell.

    I now carry the same gun but now I keep it zipped in my jacket pocket of my leather jacket. It really doesn't bother me at all in there. I don't care for keeping guns inside my car or my bike. I'd rather keep in on my person.
     
  13. Stop CPR

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    I carry a Glock 27 in an ankle holster and forget it is under my chaps and above my boot.
     
  14. Razoreye

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    Old thread but PWNT. :supergrin: :rofl:
     
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    That may be the single silliest looking thing I have ever seen.
     
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