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Sticking it to Feds: First Hemp Crop in 60 Years Planted This Week in CO

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Ronny, May 19, 2013.


  1. Kablam

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    Know that for a fact do you? My guess would be that they are pro pot, not pro hemp. The whole Colorado thing was not about hemp growing for industrial use, it was all about getting stoned. That's okay. I think the fed gov shoud stay out of it completely, but don't blow smoke up out skirts with the pro hemp thing.
     

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  2. Gundude

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    This little gem might've had something to do with it:
     

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  3. Gundude

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    Yup. Having read their posts, I know that about the posters.
    They are pro hemp too. They're also pro gun. See a pattern?
    No, it was all about ending prohibition. Ending alcohol prohibition wasn't all about getting drunk.
     
  4. Ronny

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    You're totally out of touch with reality. I have no rage, but peace at heart. I have no fear but only courage. You who would condemn your countryman for a different opinion are no patriot but are the scourge of liberty. And you know nothing of my lifestyle but assume only wrongly out of your ignorance.
     
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    I DON'T CARE,what you sycophants fail ta realize is this.I'm a Jeffersonian LIBERTARIAN.I don't give a duck what folk do.If it effects me and mine,it's a different story.I enjoy correcting n00bs.'08.

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    Answer the question.

    How does the growing of hemp affect you or your family?

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  7. Kablam

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    Tell yourself that if you like.
     
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    So you're not concerned about hemp or weed being legalized then? Sorry I misinterpreted your post.

    You did say hemp is evil though. Very libertarian of you to be fine with something you feel is evil being legalized, but, um, why is hemp evil? Looks too much like weed?
     
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    Sure, it had nothing to do with violence, crime, and loss of freedom that prohibition brought, it's just that people really really wanted to get drunk and they were unable to do so in the countless speakeasies that served alcohol illegally.

    Silly me for deluding myself and failing to see the "real" reason, which makes so much more sense to a rational person.
     
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    That about sums it up. This has a potential to provide a good cash crop for thousands of farmers thus helping our economy and keeping half a billion dollars in the USA yearly instead of giving it to other countries!
     
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    You took my post outta context,the sad part is you know you did.

    I don't care what folk do............... When it affects my Family the offender is a subject.Your fishing is kinda funny.A baited hook kinda helps.Your fishing is kinda like fertilizer.'08.
     
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    Gundude:
    "Silly me for deluding myself and failing to see the "real" reason, which makes so much more sense to a rational person."

    Stop with the insults. I'm basically on your side with the "stuff anything you want in you for whatever reason you want." I don't care. Just don't give me the industrial hemp reason for legalizing pot. That's worse than the "so we can tax it" jive. If you think the fed gov repealed prohibition because it was the noble thing to do, then believe that. You won't be the first one to have unfounded faith in the gov. It was about control, and the gov got that control because people wanted to drink. They didn't care about the crime and all...if they did they would have long ago given up on the war on drugs. They realized that they couldn't control people with regards to drinking, but they could in fact control alcohol and open a new revenue stream. That's what will happen to dope too. The fed gov will eventually give up trying to control people wanting to get high and switch to controlling the drugs. See? I don't think we're materially saying anything different here.
     
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    I voted for legalization and thus taxation of pot here in CO and have never used the stuff in my llife, the smell of it makes me want to puke. Besides most of thr MMJ users are bogus anyway. They paid a doc in a box for a bogus Dx and a card so they can buy and get high legally...

    Alcohol is far more hazardous drug than MJ. Let's look at the statistics for domestic violence, assault, dui, murder, suiside etc.
     
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    What are you arguing? It's fine with me if Colorado wants people to be able to get loaded on pot. Not my business. I've said it over and over. Alcohol too. I just don't want the gov involved at all...is that your objection to my stand?
     
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    Actually, it may surprise you to find out your posts might not be as clear as you think they are...
    You were saying?...
     
  17. Gundude

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    Agree with most of that, but...

    Industrial hemp isn't so much a reason for legalizing pot as it is just another avenue to bring insight into just how stupid the prohibition is. It demonstrates just how little common sense lies behind prohibition, and it demonstrates just how heavy-handed the government is, that it'd ban a harmless plant with so many legitimate purposes, solely for the purpose of making its job of busting pot growers easier. That's why the pro pot people bring it up. And they have a point. The War on Drugs is so flawed on so many different levels that it's not surprising to see it attacked from so many different angles.
     
  18. Kablam

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    I don't disagree at all.
     
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    That is wishful thinking at best. It is far more lucrative for parties involved to fight the WoD than collecting possible/potential tax revenues.

    How much coffee does the WoD consume? How many post-its? How many uniforms? Guns, fuel, prisons, soap, paper clips, ink, floor wax, judges, prison guards, computers, lab techs, boots, food, water, vehicles, delivery drivers, pens, janitors, notebooks, cops...?

    One would be hard pressed to think of a commodity/service that the WoD doesn't use in far greater quantities than legalization would.

    The Federal government will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into tolerating/not violating State laws, much less federal legalization. If the Fed government had the same mindset then that is has now, alcohol would still be illegal.

    That's were the real control is. Money.
     
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  20. Gundude

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    You got that right. That's why the states need to step on the gas and step up legalization while "choom guy" is in charge. The glaring hypocrisy of this particular administration cracking down on legal pot will be apparent to even the most liberal Liberal. They're already perilously close to losing "their own", this is the time to turn the screws.