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Steel cased .45 acp, safe or harmful to 1911 ?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by mista jc, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. mista jc

    mista jc Call it

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    I just acquired a LNIB SA 1911 Loaded and the only ammo I could find was steel cased, made in Russia.

    There's no brand name, it just says pistol sporting cartridges. On the receipt it says, UCW steel cased ammo .45acp, non corrosive, made in Russia

    I tried searching but only found information on wolf ammo, some people swear by it because it shoots a bit dirtier but some forbid it.

    Can any 1911 experts shed light on the issues or possible damage this ammo can cause to my firearm, if any ? I read about steel cased ammo having a rust prevention coating on it and after a few mags, it will cause binding to the mag walls, receiver and extractor.

    Would you shoot it out of your 1911? What parts are compromised by steel cased? What did I get my impatient arse into ?

    :crying:
     
  2. Cobra64

    Cobra64 Deals in Facts

    I have no personal experience shooting Wolf ammo, and based on others' experiences, I don't plan to.
     


  3. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

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    I wouldn't expect fantastic results, but I wouldn't worry about running it through my gun if it's a couple boxes. Shoot what you have; look for something better. When you are sitting around asking yourself what to do with all this .45acp brass... send me a PM.

    :supergrin:



    To answer your question, I would think it could be harder on the extractor and ejector.
     
  4. Cobra64

    Cobra64 Deals in Facts

    Steve, I think it's Berdan primed.
     
  5. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

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    ...I meant once he gets BRASS brass. Can't reload steel anyways.

    :whistling:
     
  6. Cobra64

    Cobra64 Deals in Facts

    Gotcha. :)
     
  7. Rinspeed

    Rinspeed JAFO

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    I've heard of lots of people that have shot thousands of rounds of Wolf ammo with no adverse effects. That said I won't shoot the crap in any of my guns. :dunno:
     
  8. n2extrm

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    I have seen problems with it in AR's. Never shot or saw it shot in a .45. In the AR platform the coatings sometimes cook to the chamber and the case get riped at the web. Probabley would not happen in a 1911. But still reason enough to not try it. Just my thoughts. :dunno:
     
  9. GVFlyer

    GVFlyer Senior Member

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    Somewhere in the air.
    Personally, I wouldn't use it in any of my 1911s. Sorry.
     
  10. bac1023

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    Exactly
     
  11. ilgunguygt

    ilgunguygt Enslaved in IL

    The wolf part would bother me, not the steel case. The US govt issued to steel cased ammo when brass shortages were on, and it was shot in 1911s on the battlefield. Wolf just sucks.
     
  12. 1006

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    My belief is that brass being softer than steel is not going to hurt steel barrels, but steel on steel might. I know the stuff has some coating on it to prevent it from gouging the chamber and ramp, I just don't trust it to be a 100%. If I was fighting a war .....
     
  13. den888

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    Safe for the gun, but not-reloadable and also a bit dirty.
     
  14. zdragon23c

    zdragon23c s&w&me

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    i wouldn't be surprised to see premature extractor wear with steel.
     
  15. Neener Neener

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    Not only would I not be surprised, I would expect it.
     
  16. bac1023

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    I'm not sure why someone would want to shoot that crap through their 1911. :dunno:
     
  17. FLIPPER 348

    FLIPPER 348 Happy Member

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    yes and none


    I've shot many (many) 1000s of rounds of Wolf through my 1911s witth no adverse effects.
     
  18. mista jc

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    Hm, I guess it's 50/50 from experience and knowledge. Thanks, fellow members. Lots of good responses.

    I guess I'll ask my reloader/dealer what he thinks about it. Or just sell it to my buddy who has a G30SF haha.
     
  19. L-2

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