SPRINGFIELD!?! how could you?!?

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by clogspecialist, Feb 15, 2012.

  1. hmmm I've owned Kimbers, Springers, Colt's RIA's and Taurus' ...... I'll be damned if besides looks the RIA and Taurus didn't shoot the best. Now granted, I modded the crap out of that RIA but reliability and point of aim? sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit. I wouldn't sweat a RIA, not one bit.

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  2. Snaps

    Snaps Hail 2 The King

    That would be great, I've wanted a pro rail for years but cannot buy a brazilian1911

  3. A cast frame is neither here nor there, as long as it's a good casting. The slide is the part that you don't want to be cast. That's where all the stress is. The slide and barrel assembly is the gun. The frame is no more than the gun mount and a housing for the controls.
  4. I wonder why they finish any of the less expensive models in Geneseo then (unless it was merely to increase output)...but I suspect a price increase too...

    #24 silversport, Feb 16, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2012
  5. This. Especially since you would use an online dealer.

    Or call your local FFL from the other dealer and ask him to fax his FFL.
    #25 HexHead, Feb 16, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2012
  6. the pro/pro operator are not brazillian 1911's.
  7. Snaps

    Snaps Hail 2 The King

    Sorry to burst your bubble but they are. I've spoken to the woman who runs the custom shop (Deb) and every slide/frame they make no matter how high end the gun is, is ordered from imbel in Brazil.
  8. Quack

    Quack Rent this space

    Yes, the forgings come from IMBEL, but you'd be surprised how many other 1911's start with Korean forgings.
  9. Mushinto

    Mushinto Master Member

    Which ones?
  10. Quack

    Quack Rent this space

    Korean? Nighthawk, Dan Wesson,
  11. FLIPPER 348

    FLIPPER 348 Happy Member

    All SA 1911s are Brazillian. Springfield Armory is a company in name only these days and does not 'produce' any products. But rather they assemble firearms from subcontracted components.
  12. RMTactical

    RMTactical www.AR15pro.net

    I prefer the US made ones anyways. Hopefully they start making them exclusively in the US.
  13. clogspecialist

    clogspecialist 10-head

    Thats such a buzz kill, yeah and they bought the company that made the HS200 (XD) and now market the pistol under their name. What about springfield's M1A's? are those made in Brazil as well? i have no problem owning a handgun or firearm from brazil. Im sure they do something right over there. Honestly i trust the guys at Imbel alot more than the guys over at Armscor in the philipines. Im pretty sure the only current (unexpensive) 1911's that are produced/manufactured in America are the Auto Ordnance (Kahr arms) guns. and they get very mixed reviews
  14. Quack

    Quack Rent this space

    Since they became Springfield Armory, Inc.
    IIRC, the receivers are now made in Canada by Alpha Casting INC.
    #34 Quack, Feb 19, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2012
  15. fnfalman

    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

    Springfield in Illinoise had imported guns from various manufacturers and countries throughout the years. FN FAL and M1911 from IMBEL, Galil and CZ-75 clones from IMI, HS2000 from Croatia, etc. Oh yeah, anybody remembered the OMEGA from Peter Stahl of Germany?
  16. Sell it on Gunbroker. Your going to get screwed on a trade.
  17. LTR


    Originally the smalls parts were USGI until they dried up. Bruce Machine out of Taiwan makes most of the small parts today.
  18. crazymoose

    crazymoose Nonentity

    Compare the parts fitting on some Filipino guns versus the Brazilian guns. The Brazilian guns are forged, which is nice, but the gunsmithing on ATI and RIA guns usually beats the Brazilian, in my experience.
  19. clogspecialist

    clogspecialist 10-head

    Bad news, They sold their G.I- I am now in a puddle of sorrow
    My buddy bought a RIA 1911A1 today for $450 total. Seems like a decent piece of machinery, but im in it for the springfield or maybe a remington, hell maybe even a Kahr
  20. Snaps

    Snaps Hail 2 The King

    RIA make decent guns, got the girlfriend one and it shoots well and is put together pretty well.

    Kahr makes the Auto Ord 1911s as well.

    Springfield Armory of today has nothing in common with Springfield armory, they just bought the name as I understand it.
    #40 Snaps, Feb 21, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2012

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