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Speer Gold Dot vs. Double Tap

Discussion in 'TOP GUNS *357 Sig* Club' started by bruce21b, Dec 5, 2004.

  1. NitLion

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    List on page one updated to read:

    45.) Precision Cartridge, Inc - 125g - FMJ

    That's the 66th load I've acquired! I see the list ( for right now ) eventually topping out in the upper 70's.....
     
  2. NitLion

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    List on page one updated to read:

    28.) Federal - 110g -CC BallistiClean

    That's 67 and the UPS man has been to my house three business days in a row...
     

  3. blackbmw

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    Has no one tried the buffalo bore rounds yet?
     
  4. MURRAY

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    anyone ever try the 147 DT load ?
     
  5. Los Suenos

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    I've tried it and its like shooting other heavy for caliber rds. Low recoil, not as loud, PROBABLY more penetration. It's not why I would choose 357sig but it's a good load. Maybe for woods carry though DT has a 147FMJ now.
     
  6. unit1069

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    Yes. Late this past summer I ripped off a full 13-round mag from my G-32 as fast as I could the minute I hit the range. I wanted to duplicate conditions from a cold gun like would be the case in a real emergency. I perform this test for every carry round

    All the rounds fired without any problems; can't say that my aim was much to write home about but all I was trying to do was shoot as fast as possible. I think .357sig is the perfect caliber for the 147-grain round. I imagine that if the subsonic 147-grain in 9mm does what its proponents claim the same weight/JHP design must be Superman at 1200-1300 fps.
     
  7. NitLion

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    Been a while since I posted on this thread..... I have four more loadings coming!! I will post them when I actually get my hot little hands on them. This will bring the list ( page 1 ) up to 71 and yes yes... there are more out there ( although they are getting few and far between... and pricey )
     
  8. NitLion

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    21.) Double Tap - 147g - FMJ

    bringing the total to 68!!! I may have a problem with the other order I placed as I had a fraudulent charge put on my card....and had to block my card!! So now the folks I ordered from won't be able to run my bill through. I need to call them to get things straight... I had to add some ** to CNC cartridge as they have apparently gone the way of Triton and Lancer - too bad as they made some quality stuff!!!... I will boldly predict that eventually, this list will reach 80 loads...


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  9. DowntimeLA

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    Not to take away from the Double tap but the 3918 Speers are the lesser penetration rounds, the 4234 is the standard power round which should run 50 fps faster.



     
  10. I ordered DoubleTap in 125 gr FMJ, 125 gr Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point, 147 gr FMJ, and 147 gr Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point, and although I haven't been able to properly test them yet I did accidentally shoot off 15 rounds of the 147 gr FMJ because I mistook them for 125 gr WWB. I imagine they probably punched a few holes in their backstop. Those things pass through some metal plate like a hot knife through butter.

    I have shot hot FMJ's at that indoor range before and the next time I went in they were checking with shooters to see what kind of rounds would be being used. I think my G35 with it's 6 inch barrel might have been responsible for damaging their backstop, but I didn't end up asking why they were asking...now I'm curious though.

    I've gotten some FMJ's up to 1,500/ 1,600 fps in my gun before. Some of those were hot handloads using Hornady's rounded ogive .355 (9mm) 125 gr bullets. Those things were designed by the German military to punch through armour, so I'm guessing that it's possible I penetrated the backstop. Hmmmmm what do you think, possible?
     
  11. 357 SIG!!!!! ROCKS!!!! :2gun::2gun:
     

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  12. NitLion

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    Well, thanks to JBarbaresi's posting, I have now ordered another loading The Federal HST:

    http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catal...ow-point-ammo/cName/357-sig-hollow-point-ammo

    This will bring my total to 69 different loads shot ( or on hand ). I am a little disappointed with Custom Cartridge, Inc.. I ordered 3 loadings from them... and they said when they whipped up a new batch, they would call back to see if I still wanted to purchase. That was over 4 months ago....:fred:
     
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  13. let me know how those hst's feel, especially if you can do a water jug or wet phone book test. seems like bonded is the best way to go in .357sig but federal claims the hst's won't get jacket seperation or fragmentation in a non bonded bullet. i have yet to see it in the tests performed on the other caliber hst's.
     
  14. NitLion

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    Just bid on and won 500 rounds of Underwood Ammunition...
    Apparently this guys loads several different calibers and only sells via Gunbroker...
    This will bring my total up to 70... Of course, as always, I won't update the list on page 1 until I have said ammo in my hot little hands!!:nsb:

    Here is a link if anyone else is interested:

    outdated link!
     
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  15. NitLion

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    List on page one updated to read...

    Federal -125g - HSTJHP

    more coming...
     

  16. you can add speer gold dot LP (53918), the normal LE load is (54234).
     
  17. NitLion

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    Any difference between 23918 ( personal protection) and 54234 (LE) other than packaging ? Where could I get the LP - which I guess stands for limited penetration?
     
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  18. yes 23918 is limited penetration. its about 50 fps slower and has slightly lower muzzle energy. ammotogo has 54234 in boxes of 50 for $30, and 23918 in boxes of 20 for $22. i hope speer has not discontinued 54234 because its no longer on their website, and that's my carry round of choice right now.
     
  19. NitLion

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    Well, well, well.... The UPS man finally arrived yesterday with my ammo! List on page one updated to read:

    Underwood Ammunition - 124g - HP

    That's the 70 Milestone:cheerleader::rock::devildance: Can hardly wait to get out and shoot 'er....er.....when it warms up a tad.
     
  20. LEAD

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    This is great you guys are talking .357sig. I looked into a bunch of different loadings, and looking aprticularly at veolcity and weight statistics. Speer had the best velocities followed by buffalo bore. I'm curious to what the veolicities for Federal HST and Ranger T series run at. I would assume they are below double tap, but not positive. If anyone has any information relative to performence comparisons between DT, HST and Ranger T rounds in .357sig let me know.