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Speer Gold Dot vs. Double Tap

Discussion in 'TOP GUNS *357 Sig* Club' started by bruce21b, Dec 5, 2004.

  1. bruce21b

    bruce21b

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    Hey all,

    does anyone know the difference between factory Speer Gold Dot and Double Tap Gold Dot as far as velocity f.p.s and ft. lbs. energy, if any??? thanks in advance:)
     
  2. Donut Gestapo

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    Double Tap:
    3.5" barrel - 1415fps
    4.5" barrel - 1525fps

    Speer:
    4.0" barrel - 1350fps

    Both have the same Gold Dot Bullet
     

  3. MCNETT

    MCNETT Load Developer Lifetime Member

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    Exactly!
    -Mike
     
  4. G33

    G33 Frisky! Millennium Member CLM

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    Years of Speer...Now carry the DT.;f
     
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    BillCola Supreme Cmdr ®

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    I consider that a more than sufficient recommendation...
     
  6. G33

    G33 Frisky! Millennium Member CLM

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  7. bruce21b

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    Just ordered a box of Gold Dots from Double Tap, cant wait to try them out, thanks:)
     
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    :( May have to try these! I have carried the Speers for quite awhile! ;P Ummm! Where do you guys get them?;Q
     
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    Nevermind! Just found the address in MCNETT's post!;a Oops! Caught your post a second late Bruce!;P
     
  11. T Earl

    T Earl BufordT Justice

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    I just ordered some double tap, I got a box of the gold dot and a box of the FMJ to try it out. Should be here in a week, I also have speer gold dots and I just got a box of Federal 125 JHP. When I get the double tap I plan on doing a side by side test, I have access to a chronograph, and plan on hitting some phone books, water jugs, ply wood and anything else we can think of. I have not seen any yet but does Remington, Winchester, PMC or anyone else make 125's ( or anything else for that matter) for the 357 sig which is readily available? The more I have the more I shall test to see which performs "best". Yes a highly subjective term, I should say which one I am personally happiest and most confident with. Oh I will be shooting them out of a G33, I just ordered a 40 conversion barrel for it but I don't know how much use I will be getting out of it, probably just go shoot some and say, see how much "better" it is in 357 !! Or if I am feeling cheap and want to pick up some cheap ammo.
    What are all your thoughts....
     
  12. SKeefe

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    Assuming you mean FMJ also...

    Winchester makes 357Sig in the white box, Remington makes it in the UMC yellow box, and PMC has some as well (and I believe all three make JHPs as well).
     
  13. NitLion

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    **1.) Advanced Ammunition - 124g - CMJ
    **2.) Advanced Ammunition - 124g - HP (Nosler)
    3.) Alabama Ammo Inc. - 125g - JHP
    4.) Alchemist Ammunition - 100g - CCF (frang)
    **5.) Appalachian Ammunition Inc. - 125g - JHP (RL)
    **6.) Atlanta Arms & Ammo - 124g - FP TCJ (RL)
    7.) Atomic Ammunition - 147g - bonded HP
    8.) Battle Born Ammunition - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    9.) Big Bear Firepower - 125g - JFP
    10.) Birds-n-Bullets - 124g - FMP (RL)
    **11.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    12.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 121g - JSP (RL)
    13.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    14.) Blue Ridge Cartridge - 124g - CPFP
    15.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - FMJ
    16.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - JHC
    17.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    **18.) CCI Speer Blazer - 125g - TMJ
    19.) CCI Speer Lawman -125g - TMJ
    20.) CCI Speer Lawman RHT - 100g - frangible
    21.) CCI Speer Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (23918 and 53918)
    22.) CCI Speer LE Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (54234)
    23.) CCI Speer Lawmen - 125g - TMJCF (clean-fire)
    24.) Clark Custom Cartridge Company -100g - incendiary
    **25.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - FMJ
    **26.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - JHP
    **27.) CNC Cartridge - 102g golden sabre - JHP
    **28.) Collins Cartridge Comp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    29.) Colorado Custom Cartridge - 115g - FMJ
    30.) Commonwealth Ammunition - 90g - frangible
    31.) Concepts In Ammunition - Home Defense Load (RB)
    32.) Concepts In Ammunition - Sport Load (RB)
    33.) C.O.P (Copper only Projectiles) - 125g - SCHP
    34.) Corbon - 115g - JHP
    35.) Corbon - 125g - JHP
    36.) Corbon DPX- 125g - DPX
    37.) Corbon Pow'R Ball - 100gr - PB
    **38.) Corbon BeeSafe - 91g - BS
    39.) County Line High Grade - 147g - HP CMJ (RL)
    40.) Crooked Creek Arms - 125g - JHP
    41.) Crossfire Ammunition - BlackMax - 125g - SCHP
    42.) Crossfire Ammunition - Tactical Grenade - 100g - FHP
    **43.) Dead Zero Ammunition - 125g - XTP
    44.) Defender Ammunition Company - 124g - FN
    45.) Defender Ammunition Company - 124g - HP
    46.) Detroit Ammunition Co. - 147g - HP (subsonic)(RL)
    47.) Detroit Bullet Works - 124g - HP(plated)(RL)
    48.) DFA - 85g - Nylon ( lead free )
    49.) DoubleTap - 125g - JHP
    50.) DoubleTap - 125g - FMJ
    51.) DoubleTap - 115g - JHP
    52.) DoubleTap - 147g - JHP
    53.) DoubleTap - 147g - FMJ
    54.) DoubleTap - 80g - Barnes TAC-XP
    55.) DoubleTap - 115g - Barnes TAC-XP
    56.) DoubleTap - 115g - Nosler JHP
    57.) DoubleTap - 180g - WFNGC hardcast
    58.) Dynamic Research Technologies(DRT) - 85g - HP
    59.) Eagle Brand Ammo - 125g - FMJFP (RL)
    60.) Extreme Shock Air Freedom - 85gr - AF
    61.) Extreme Shock Enhanced Penetration - 115g -frangible
    **62.) Extreme Shock - 90g - FFJHP
    63.) Extreme Shock - 124g - FFJHP
    64.) Extreme Shock-90g-JPT-(lead free-frangible)
    65.) Farrar Ballistics - 125g - TMJ (RL)
    66.) Federal American Eagle - 125g - FMJ
    67.) Federal - 125g - FMJ
    68.) Federal - 125g - JHP
    **69.) Federal - 150g - JHP
    70.) Federal - 100g - CC BallistiClean
    71.) Federal - 125g - HSTJHP
    72.) Federal - 125g - THP (Tactical HP - bonded)
    73.) Fiocchi - 124g - FMJ
    74.) Fiocchi - 124g -XTPHP
    75.) Fiocchi - 100g - SFN frangible
    76.) Freedom Munitions - 125g - FP (RL)
    77.) Freedom Munitions - 124g - XTP(RL)
    78.) Freedom Munitions - 125g - FP
    79.) Freedom Munitions - 124g - XTP
    80.) G2 Research R.I.P. - 92g - RIP HP
    81.) Garnet Ammunition Inc. - 125g - GDHP
    82.) GBW Cartridge - Legend Pro - 125g - CHP
    83.) Gene's Custom Ammo - 115g - Extreme JHP (RL)
    84.) Gene's Custom Ammo - 147g JHP -XTP (RL)
    85.) Gene's Custom Ammo - 124g - JFP (RL)
    86.) Georgia Arms - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    87.) Georgia Arms - 125g - GDHP (RL)
    88.) Glaser - Blue - 80g - Safety Slug
    89.) Glaser - Silver - 80g - Safety Slug
    90.) Good To Go Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
    91.) Good To Go Ammunition - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    92.) Great Lakes Ammunition - 121g - FN (RL)
    93.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 90g - JHP
    94.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - JHP
    95.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - FMJ-FP
    96.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP
    97.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 110g - Extreme (JHP)
    98.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 125g - FNMJ
    99.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 124g - XTPHP
    100.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 124g - FNCP (RL)
    101.) Hornady - 115g - FXT (critical defense)
    102.) Hornady - 124g - JHP
    103.) Hornady - 147g - JHP
    104.) Hornady - 124g - TAP CQ
    105.) Hornady - 147g - TAP CQ
    106.) Hornady - 135g - FlexLock (critical duty)
    107.) Hornady - 135g - FMJ
    108.) Hunting Shack Munitions - 124g - PFP (plated flat point) (RL)
    109.) Hunting Shack Munitions - 125g - TMJ (Speer)(RL)
    110.) Hyperion Munitions - 124g - FP
    **111.) Ike's Custom Ammunition - 124g - FP
    **112.) Ike's Custom Ammunition - 147 - HP - XTP
    113.) International Cartridge Corp. - 100g - HP - Duty - frang ( Green Elite duty)
    114.) International Cartridge Corp - 100g - FP -Green Elite - (NT)-frangible
    115.) J&J Ammunition - 124g - PHP (RL)
    116.) J&J Ammunition - 124g - HBFP (RL)
    117.) Jamison Brass and Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    **118.) Lancer Custom - 125g - FMJ
    **119.) Lancer Custom - 125g - XTP
    **120.) Lancer Custom - 125g - JHP
    121.) LAX ammunition - 125g - RNFP
    122.) Lehigh Defense - 115g - Xtreme Penetrator
    123.) Lehigh Defense - 90g - Extreme Defense
    124.) Load-X - 124g - TMJ
    125.) Load-X - 115g - JHP
    126.) Load-X - 124g - JHP
    **127.) M & M Reloads - 124g - CPFP (RL)
    128.) Magsafe Ammo, Inc. - 64g - Defender
    129.) Magsafe Ammo, Inc - 45g - Swat
    130.) Maine Ammo Company - 125g - FN
    131.) Maine Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP (RL)
    132.) Master-Ammo Company -125g - CGFP (RL)
    133.) Master Cartridge - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    134.) Mid-South Munitions - 125g - FMJ
    135.) Mid-South Munitions - 125g - JHP
    136.) Middle Creek Shooting Supply - 124g - FN (RL)
    137.) Military Ballistics Industries - 124g - FMJ (RL)
    138.) Miwall - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    139.) Modern Munitions - 125g - FP (RL)
    140.) Northern Hills Precision Ammo - 124g - HBFP (RL)
    141.) Northern Hills Precision Ammo - 147g - FP (RL)
    142.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
    143.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (value line)(RL)
    144.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (premium line)
    145.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (premium line)
    146.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
    147.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (value line)(RL)
    148.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (premium line)
    149.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (premium line)
    150.) Parabellum Research - 100g - RHFP (value line) frangible
    **151.) PMC - 124g - FMJ
    **152.) PMC Starfire - 125g - JHP
    **153.) Precision Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    **154.) Precision Ammunition - 100g - copper matrix NTF (non-toxic frangible)
    155.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    156.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 100g -RNFP - frangible (RL)
    157.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - FMJ
    158.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - HP/XTP
    159.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    160.) Prograde - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    **161.) Pro-Load - 125g - JHP
    162.) Prvi Partizan - 125g - FPJ
    163.) RBCD - 60g - TFSP (total fragmenting soft point)
    164.) RBCD - 50g - TDP - total fragmenting sp
    165.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 90g - XTP
    166.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 115g - XTP
    167.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 124g - XTP
    168.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 147g - XTP
    169.) Reed's Ammo & research - 124g - Gold Sabre
    170.) Remington - 125g - JHP
    171.) Remington Gold Sabre - 125g - BJHP
    172.) Remington Disintegrator - 104g - plated frangible
    173.) Remington Disintegrator CTF - 100g - Frangible
    174.) RWS - 100g - copper matrix NTF
    175.) Sasquatch Ammunition - 124g - CPF
    176.) SBR - 124g - FMJ SRVT (short range visible tracer)
    177.) SBR - 124r - FMJ ERVT (extended range visible tracer)
    178.) SBR - 147g - TCJ (Southern Ballistics Research)
    179.) SBR - 130g - FMJ (TCJ) (Southern Ballistics Research)
    180.) Scorpion Reloads - 125g - Power Bond (FMJ)
    181.) Sellier & Belliot - 140g - FMJ
    182.) Sharp Shooter Ammunition - 125g - JHP (RL)
    183.) Sig Sauer - V-Crown - 125g - JHP
    184.) Sig Sauer - 125g - FMJ
    **185.) Sillman Cartridge Company - 147g - FMJ
    186.) Silver Bullet Munitions - 124g - FP (RL)
    187.) Sperry Ballistics - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    188.) Team Never Quit - 100g - HP frangible
    189.) Tennessee Cartridge Company - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    **190.) Texas Ammunition Co. - 124g - FMJFP (RL)
    191.) TNT Munitions- 125g - FMJ - FP
    192.) TNT Munitions - 147g - XTP
    193.) Trident Ammunition - 124g - JHP (RL)
    **194.) Triton - 115g - QSHP
    **195.) Triton - 125g - JHP
    **196.) Triton - 135g - QSHP
    197.) Ultramax - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    198.) UMC - 125g - FMJ
    199.) UMC - 125g - JHP
    200.) Underwood Ammunition - 124g - HP (RL)
    201.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - GDJHP
    202.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - BFMJ
    203.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - JHP (Sierra bullet)
    204.) Underwood Ammunition - 147g - GDJHP
    205.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - TAC-XP
    206.) Underwood Ammunition - 115g - JHP
    207.) Underwood Ammunition- 124g - JHP - XTP
    208.) Underwood Ammunition - 115g - Xtreme Penetrator
    209.) Underwood Ammunition - 90g - Xtreme Defender
    210.) Underwood Ammunition - 124g - JHP (Nosler)
    211.) Underwood Ammunition - 147g - JHP - XTP
    212.) Ventura Tactical - 125g -TC (Truncated Cone)(RL)
    213.) Vet-Made Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
    214.) Village Tactical - 124g - CPFP (RL)
    **215.) Wagner Acuswage - 125g - TMJ (RL)
    216.) Washougal River Cartridge Company - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    **217.) Webb's Brass Assets - 124g - FP
    218.) Winchester - 125g - FMJ
    219.) Winchester - 125g - JHP
    220.) Winchester - WinClean - 125g - BEB (brass enclosed base)
    221.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - SXT
    222.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - BJHP
    223.) Winchester Ranger - 100g - SF - frangible
    **224.) Winchester Super Clean NT - 105g - JSP
    225.) Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    226.) Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - HP (RL)




    ** - no longer manufactured
    (RL) - remanufactured round
     
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  14. SKeefe

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    Pretty sure it's already out. :cool:
     
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    Right!! That whole section was cut and pasted from another ( much earlier ) thread... like I said, I seem to post this often.
     
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    Double Tap in .357 sig kicks ass.;f
     
  17. Donut Gestapo

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    Duh!

    I have made the switch, too.
     
  18. tgtshuter

    tgtshuter Too Beaucoup

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    Looks like I'm gonna make the switch to Double Tap also.

    Damn!! Wasn't too long ago I did my 200 round test with the Speers!!!;g :(

    ^2
     
  19. wade farley

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    :cool: I've been using the Speer Gold Dots & Ranger SXT's for CCW rounds, but the DT looks interesting. Does anyone have the address to thier Website? Thank you, in advance. Have fun & stay safe! ;f ;f
     
  20. bruce21b

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