Speer Gold Dot vs. Double Tap

Discussion in 'TOP GUNS *357 Sig* Club' started by bruce21b, Dec 5, 2004.


  1. bruce21b

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    Hey all,

    does anyone know the difference between factory Speer Gold Dot and Double Tap Gold Dot as far as velocity f.p.s and ft. lbs. energy, if any??? thanks in advance:)
     

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    Double Tap:
    3.5" barrel - 1415fps
    4.5" barrel - 1525fps

    Speer:
    4.0" barrel - 1350fps

    Both have the same Gold Dot Bullet
     

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    Just ordered a box of Gold Dots from Double Tap, cant wait to try them out, thanks:)
     
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    :( May have to try these! I have carried the Speers for quite awhile! ;P Ummm! Where do you guys get them?;Q
     
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    Nevermind! Just found the address in MCNETT's post!;a Oops! Caught your post a second late Bruce!;P
     
  11. T Earl

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    I just ordered some double tap, I got a box of the gold dot and a box of the FMJ to try it out. Should be here in a week, I also have speer gold dots and I just got a box of Federal 125 JHP. When I get the double tap I plan on doing a side by side test, I have access to a chronograph, and plan on hitting some phone books, water jugs, ply wood and anything else we can think of. I have not seen any yet but does Remington, Winchester, PMC or anyone else make 125's ( or anything else for that matter) for the 357 sig which is readily available? The more I have the more I shall test to see which performs "best". Yes a highly subjective term, I should say which one I am personally happiest and most confident with. Oh I will be shooting them out of a G33, I just ordered a 40 conversion barrel for it but I don't know how much use I will be getting out of it, probably just go shoot some and say, see how much "better" it is in 357 !! Or if I am feeling cheap and want to pick up some cheap ammo.
    What are all your thoughts....
     
  12. SKeefe

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    Assuming you mean FMJ also...

    Winchester makes 357Sig in the white box, Remington makes it in the UMC yellow box, and PMC has some as well (and I believe all three make JHPs as well).
     
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    T Earl,

    Here's a partial list of what's out there:


    **1.) Advanced Ammunition - 124g - CMJ
    **2.) Advanced Ammunition - 124g - HP (Nosler)
    3.) Alabama Ammo Inc. - 125g - JHP
    **4.) Appalachian Ammunition Inc. - 125g - JHP (RL)
    **5.) Atlanta Arms & Ammo - 124g - FP TCJ (RL)
    6.) Battle Born Ammunition - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    7.) Big Bear Firepower - 125g - JFP
    8.) Birds-n-Bullets - 124g - FMP (RL)
    **9.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    10.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 121g - JSP (RL)
    11.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    12.) Blue Ridge Cartridge - 124g - CPFP
    13.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - FMJ
    14.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - JHC
    15.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    **16.) CCI Speer Blazer - 125g - TMJ
    17.) CCI Speer Lawman -125g - TMJ
    18.) CCI Speer Lawman RHT - 100g - frangible
    19.) CCI Speer Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (23918 and 53918)
    20.) CCI Speer LE Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (54234)
    21.) CCI Speer Lawmen - 125g - TMJCF (clean-fire)
    22.) Clark Custom Cartridge Company -100g - incendiary
    **23.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - FMJ
    **24.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - JHP
    **25.) CNC Cartridge - 102g golden sabre - JHP
    **26.) Collins Cartridge Comp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    27.) Colorado Custom Cartridge - 115g - FMJ
    28.) Commonwealth Ammunition - 90g - frangible
    29.) C.O.P (Copper only Projectiles) - 125g - SCHP
    30.) Corbon - 115g - JHP
    31.) Corbon - 125g - JHP
    32.) Corbon DPX- 125g - DPX
    33.) Corbon Pow'R Ball - 100gr - PB
    **34.) Corbon BeeSafe - 91g - BS
    35.) County Line High Grade - 147g - HP CMJ (RL)
    36.) Crooked Creek Arms - 125g - JHP
    37.) Crossfire Ammunition - BlackMax - 125g - SCHP
    38.) Crossfire Ammunition - Tactical Grenade - 100g - FHP
    **39.) Dead Zero Ammunition - 125g - XTP
    40.) Detroit Ammunition Co. - 147g - HP (subsonic)(RL)
    41.) Detroit Bullet Works - 124g - HP(plated)(RL)
    42.) DFA - 85g - Nylon ( lead free )
    43.) DoubleTap - 125g - JHP
    44.) DoubleTap - 125g - FMJ
    45.) DoubleTap - 115g - JHP
    46.) DoubleTap - 147g - JHP
    47.) DoubleTap - 147g - FMJ
    48.) DoubleTap - 80g - Barnes TAC-XP
    49.) DoubleTap - 115g - Barnes TAC-XP
    50.) DoubleTap - 115g - Nosler JHP
    51.) DoubleTap - 180g - WFNGC hardcast
    52.) Dynamic Research Technologies(DRT) - 85g - HP
    53.) Eagle Brand Ammo - 125g - FMJFP (RL)
    54.) Extreme Shock Air Freedom - 85gr - AF
    55.) Extreme Shock Enhanced Penetration - 115g -frangible
    **56.) Extreme Shock - 90g - FFJHP
    57.) Extreme Shock - 124g - FFJHP
    58.) Extreme Shock-90g-JPT-(lead free-frangible)
    59.) Farrar Ballistics - 125g - TMJ (RL)
    60.) Federal American Eagle - 125g - FMJ
    61.) Federal - 125g - FMJ
    62.) Federal - 125g - JHP
    **63.) Federal - 150g - JHP
    64.) Federal - 100g - CC BallistiClean
    65.) Federal - 125g - HSTJHP
    66.) Federal - 125g - THP (Tactical HP - bonded)
    67.) Fiocchi - 124g - FMJ
    68.) Fiocchi - 124g -XTPHP
    69.) Fiocchi - 100g - SFN frangible
    70.) G2 Research R.I.P. - 92g - RIP HP
    71.) Garnet Ammunition Inc. - 125g - GDHP
    72.) Gene's Custom Ammo - 115g - Extreme JHP (RL)
    73.) Gene's Custom Ammo - 147g JHP -XTP (RL)
    74.) Gene's Custom Ammo - 124g - JFP (RL)
    75.) Georgia Arms - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    76.) Georgia Arms - 125g - GDHP (RL)
    77.) Glaser - Blue - 80g - Safety Slug
    78.) Glaser - Silver - 80g - Safety Slug
    79.) Good To Go Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
    80.) Good To Go Ammunition - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    81.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 90g - JHP
    82.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - JHP
    83.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - FMJ-FP
    84.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP
    85.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 110g - Extreme (JHP)
    86.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 125g - FNMJ
    87.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 124g - XTPHP
    88.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 124g - FNCP (RL)
    89.) Hornady - 115g - FXT (critical defense)
    90.) Hornady - 124g - JHP
    91.) Hornady - 147g - JHP
    92.) Hornady - 124g - TAP CQ
    93.) Hornady - 147g - TAP CQ
    94.) Hornady - 135g - FlexLock (critical duty)
    95.) Hunting Shack Munitions - 124g - PFP (plated flat point) (RL)
    96.) Hunting Shack Munitions - 125g - TMJ (Speer)(RL)
    **97.) Ike's Custom Ammunition - 124g - FP
    **98.) Ike's Custom Ammunition - 147 - HP - XTP
    99.) International Cartridge Corp. - 100g - HP - Duty - frang ( Green Elite duty)
    100.) International Cartridge Corp - 100g - FP -Green Elite - (NT)-frangible
    101.) J&J Ammunition - 124g - PHP (RL)
    102.) J&J Ammunition - 124g - HBFP (RL)
    103.) Jamison Brass and Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    **104.) Lancer Custom - 125g - FMJ
    **105.) Lancer Custom - 125g - XTP
    **106.) Lancer Custom - 125g - JHP
    107.) Lehigh Defense - 115g - Xtreme Penetrator
    108.) Lehigh Defense - 90g - Extreme Defense
    109.) Load-X - 124g - TMJ
    110.) Load-X - 115g - JHP
    111.) Load-X - 124g - JHP
    **112.) M & M Reloads - 124g - CPFP (RL)
    113.) Magsafe Ammo, Inc. - 64g - Defender
    114.) Magsafe Ammo, Inc - 45g - Swat
    115.) Maine Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP (RL)
    116.) Master-Ammo Company -125g - CGFP (RL)
    117.) Master Cartridge - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    118.) Mid-South Munitions - 125g - FMJ
    119.) Mid-South Munitions - 125g - JHP
    120.) Middle Creek Shooting Supply - 124g - FN (RL)
    121.) Military Ballistics Industries - 124g - FMJ (RL)
    122.) Miwall - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    123.) Northern Hills Precision Ammo - 124g - HBFP (RL)
    124.) Northern Hills Precision Ammo - 147g - FP (RL)
    125.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
    126.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (value line)(RL)
    127.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (premium line)
    128.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (premium line)
    129.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
    130.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (value line)(RL)
    131.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (premium line)
    132.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (premium line)
    133.) Parabellum Research - 100g - RHFP (value line) frangible
    **134.) PMC - 124g - FMJ
    **135.) PMC Starfire - 125g - JHP
    **136.) Precision Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    **137.) Precision Ammunition - 100g - copper matrix NTF (non-toxic frangible)
    138.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    139.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 100g -RNFP - frangible (RL)
    140.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - FMJ
    141.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - HP/XTP
    142.) Prograde - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    **143.) Pro-Load - 125g - JHP
    144.) Prvi Partizan - 125g - FPJ
    145.) RBCD - 60g - TFSP (total fragmenting soft point)
    146.) RBCD - 50g - TDP - total fragmenting sp
    147.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 90g - XTP
    148.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 115g - XTP
    149.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 124g - XTP
    150.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 147g - XTP
    151.) Reed's Ammo & research - 124g - Gold Sabre
    152.) Remington - 125g - JHP
    153.) Remington Gold Sabre - 125g - BJHP
    154.) Remington Disintegrator - 104g - plated frangible
    155.) Remington Disintegrator CTF - 100g - Frangible
    156.) RWS - 100g - copper matrix NTF
    157.) Sasquatch Ammunition - 124g - CPF
    158.) SBR - 124g - FMJ SRVT (short range visible tracer)
    159.) SBR - 124r - FMJ ERVT (extended range visible tracer)
    160.) SBR - 147g - TCJ (Southern Ballistics Research)
    161.) SBR - 130g - FMJ (TCJ) (Southern Ballistics Research)
    162.) Sellier & Belliot - 140g - FMJ
    163.) Sharp Shooter Ammunition - 125g - JHP (RL)
    164.) Sig Sauer - V-Crown - 125g - JHP
    165.) Sig Sauer - 125g - FMJ
    **166.) Sillman Cartridge Company - 147g - FMJ
    167.) Silver Bullet Munitions - 124g - FP (RL)
    168.) Sperry Ballistics - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    169.) Team Never Quit - 100g - HP frangible
    170.) Tennessee Cartridge Company - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    **171.) Texas Ammunition Co. - 124g - FMJFP (RL)
    172.) Trident Ammunition - 124g - JHP (RL)
    **173.) Triton - 115g - QSHP
    **174.) Triton - 125g - JHP
    **175.) Triton - 135g - QSHP
    176.) Ultramax - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    177.) UMC - 125g - FMJ
    178.) UMC - 125g - JHP
    179.) Underwood Ammunition - 124g - HP (RL)
    180.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - GDJHP
    181.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - BFMJ
    182.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - JHP (Sierra bullet)
    183.) Underwood Ammunition - 147g - GDJHP
    184.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - TAC-XP
    185.) Underwood Ammunition - 115g - JHP
    186.) Underwood Ammunition- 124g - JHP - XTP
    187.) Underwood Ammunition - 115g - Xtreme Penetrator
    188.) Underwood Ammunition - 90g - Xtreme Defender
    189.) Ventura Tactical - 125g - TC (Truncated Cone)(RL)
    190.) Vet-Made Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
    191.) Village Tactical - 124g - CPFP (RL)
    **192.) Wagner Acuswage - 125g - TMJ (RL)
    193.) Washougal River Cartridge Company - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    **194.) Webb's Brass Assets - 124g - FP
    195.) Winchester - 125g - FMJ
    196.) Winchester - 125g - JHP
    197.) Winchester - WinClean - 125g - BEB (brass enclosed base)
    198.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - SXT
    199.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - BJHP
    200.) Winchester Ranger - 100g - SF - frangible
    **201.) Winchester Super Clean NT - 105g - JSP
    202.) Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    203.) Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - HP (RL)

    ** - no longer manufactured
    (RL) - remanufactured round

    Links:

    Master-Ammo
    DoubleTap Ammunition
    GTG Ammo
    Underwood Ammo
    Georgia Arms
    Parabellum Research
    Wisconsin Cartridge
    Precision One Ammunition
    Mid-South Munitions
    Big Bear Firepower
    Colorado Custom Cartridge
    Grizzly Cartridge
    Highland Lakes Ammo


    Maybe we should make a sticky out of this list as I seem to post it quite frequently. G33???
     
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    Pretty sure it's already out. :cool:
     
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    Right!! That whole section was cut and pasted from another ( much earlier ) thread... like I said, I seem to post this often.
     
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    Double Tap in .357 sig kicks ass.;f
     
  17. Donut Gestapo

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    Duh!

    I have made the switch, too.
     
  18. tgtshuter

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    Looks like I'm gonna make the switch to Double Tap also.

    Damn!! Wasn't too long ago I did my 200 round test with the Speers!!!;g :(

    ^2
     
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    :cool: I've been using the Speer Gold Dots & Ranger SXT's for CCW rounds, but the DT looks interesting. Does anyone have the address to thier Website? Thank you, in advance. Have fun & stay safe! ;f ;f
     
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