Speer Gold Dot vs. Double Tap

Discussion in 'TOP GUNS *357 Sig* Club' started by bruce21b, Dec 5, 2004.


  1. Hey all,

    does anyone know the difference between factory Speer Gold Dot and Double Tap Gold Dot as far as velocity f.p.s and ft. lbs. energy, if any??? thanks in advance:)
     

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  2. Double Tap:
    3.5" barrel - 1415fps
    4.5" barrel - 1525fps

    Speer:
    4.0" barrel - 1350fps

    Both have the same Gold Dot Bullet
     

  3. MCNETT

    MCNETT Load Developer
    Lifetime Member

    Exactly!
    -Mike
     
  4. G33

    G33 Frisky!
    Millennium Member CLM

    Years of Speer...Now carry the DT.;f
     
  5. BillCola

    BillCola Supreme Cmdr ®

    I consider that a more than sufficient recommendation...
     
  6. G33

    G33 Frisky!
    Millennium Member CLM

    ;J ;C
     
  7. Just ordered a box of Gold Dots from Double Tap, cant wait to try them out, thanks:)
     
  8. :( May have to try these! I have carried the Speers for quite awhile! ;P Ummm! Where do you guys get them?;Q
     
  9. Nevermind! Just found the address in MCNETT's post!;a Oops! Caught your post a second late Bruce!;P
     
  10. T Earl

    T Earl BufordT Justice

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    I just ordered some double tap, I got a box of the gold dot and a box of the FMJ to try it out. Should be here in a week, I also have speer gold dots and I just got a box of Federal 125 JHP. When I get the double tap I plan on doing a side by side test, I have access to a chronograph, and plan on hitting some phone books, water jugs, ply wood and anything else we can think of. I have not seen any yet but does Remington, Winchester, PMC or anyone else make 125's ( or anything else for that matter) for the 357 sig which is readily available? The more I have the more I shall test to see which performs "best". Yes a highly subjective term, I should say which one I am personally happiest and most confident with. Oh I will be shooting them out of a G33, I just ordered a 40 conversion barrel for it but I don't know how much use I will be getting out of it, probably just go shoot some and say, see how much "better" it is in 357 !! Or if I am feeling cheap and want to pick up some cheap ammo.
    What are all your thoughts....
     
  11. Assuming you mean FMJ also...

    Winchester makes 357Sig in the white box, Remington makes it in the UMC yellow box, and PMC has some as well (and I believe all three make JHPs as well).
     
  12. T Earl,

    Here's a partial list of what's out there:


    1.) Advanced Ammunition - 124g - CMJ
    2.) Advanced Ammunition - 124g - HP (Nosler)
    3.) Alabama Ammo Inc. - 125g - JHP
    4.) Appalachian Ammunition Inc. - 125g - JHP (RL)
    **5.) Atlanta Arms & Ammo - 124g - FP TCJ (RL)
    6.) Big Bear Firepower - 125g - JFP
    7.) Birds-n-Bullets - 124g - FMP (RL)
    **8.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    9.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 121g - JSP (RL)
    10.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    11.) Blue Ridge Cartridge - 124g - CPFP
    12.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - FMJ
    13.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - JHC
    14.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    **15.) CCI Speer Blazer - 125g - TMJ
    16.) CCI Speer Lawman -125g - TMJ
    17.) CCI Speer Lawman RHT - 100g - frangible
    18.) CCI Speer Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (23918 and 53918)
    19.) CCI Speer LE Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (54234)
    20.) CCI Speer Lawmen - 125g - TMJCF (clean-fire)
    21.) Clark Custom Cartridge Company -100g - incendiary
    **22.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - FMJ
    **23.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - JHP
    **24.) CNC Cartridge - 102g golden sabre - JHP
    **25.) Collins Cartridge Comp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    26.) Colorado Custom Cartridge - 115g - FMJ
    27.) Corbon - 115g - JHP
    28.) Corbon - 125g - JHP
    29.) Corbon DPX- 125g - DPX
    30.) Corbon Pow'R Ball - 100gr - PB
    **31.) Corbon BeeSafe - 91g - BS
    32.) County Line High Grade - 147g - HP CMJ (RL)
    33.) Crooked Creek Arms - 125g - JHP
    **34.) Dead Zero Ammunition - 125g - XTP
    35.) Detroit Ammunition Co. - 147g - HP (subsonic)(RL)
    36.) Detroit Bullet Works - 124g - HP(plated)(RL)
    37.) DFA - 85g - Nylon ( lead free )
    38.) DoubleTap - 125g - JHP
    39.) DoubleTap - 125g - FMJ
    40.) DoubleTap - 115g - JHP
    41.) DoubleTap - 147g - JHP
    42.) DoubleTap - 147g - FMJ
    43.) DoubleTap - 80g - Barnes TAC-XP
    44.) DoubleTap - 115g - Barnes TAC-XP
    45.) DoubleTap - 115g - Nosler JHP
    46.) DoubleTap - 180g - WFNGC hardcast
    47.) Dynamic Research Technologies(DRT) - 85g - HP
    48.) Eagle Brand Ammo - 125g - FMJFP (RL)
    49.) Extreme Shock Air Freedom - 85gr - AF
    50.) Extreme Shock Enhanced Penetration - 115g -frangible
    **51.) Extreme Shock - 90g - FFJHP
    52.) Extreme Shock - 124g - FFJHP
    53.) Extreme Shock-90g-JPT-(lead free-frangible)
    54.) Federal American Eagle - 125g - FMJ
    55.) Federal - 125g - FMJ
    56.) Federal - 125g - JHP
    **57.) Federal - 150g - JHP
    58.) Federal - 100g - CC BallistiClean
    59.) Federal - 125g - HSTJHP
    60.) Federal - 125g - THP (Tactical HP - bonded)
    61.) Fiocchi - 124g - FMJ
    62.) Fiocchi - 124g -XTPHP
    63.) Fiocchi - 100g - SFN frangible
    64.) G2 Research R.I.P. - 92g - RIP HP
    65.) Georgia Arms - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    66.) Georgia Arms - 125g - GDHP (RL)
    67.) Glaser - Blue - 80g - Safety Slug
    68.) Glaser - Silver - 80g - Safety Slug
    69.) Good To Go Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
    70.) Good To Go Ammunition - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    71.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 90g - JHP
    72.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - JHP
    73.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - FMJ-FP
    74.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP
    75.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 110g - Extreme (JHP)
    76.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 125g - FNMJ
    77.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 124g - XTPHP
    78.) Hornady - 115g - FXT (critical defense)
    79.) Hornady - 124g - JHP
    80.) Hornady - 147g - JHP
    81.) Hornady - 124g - TAP CQ
    82.) Hornady - 147g - TAP CQ
    83.) Hornady - 135g - FlexLock (critical duty)
    84.) Hunting Shack Munitions - 124g - PFP (plated flat point) (RL)
    85.) Hunting Shack Munitions - 125g - TMJ (Speer)(RL)
    **86.) Ike's Custom Ammunition - 124g - FP
    **87.) Ike's Custom Ammunition - 147 - HP - XTP
    88.) International Cartridge Corp. - 100g - HP - frangible( Green Elite TR)
    89.) International Cartridge Corp - 100g - FP -NT-frangible ( Green Elite NT)
    90.) J&J Ammunition - 124g - PHP (RL)
    91.) J&J Ammunition - 124g - HBFP (RL)
    **92.) Lancer Custom - 125g - FMJ
    **93.) Lancer Custom - 125g - XTP
    **94.) Lancer Custom - 125g - JHP
    95.) Lehigh Defense - 115g - Xtreme Penetrator
    96.) Load-X - 124g - TMJ
    97.) Load-X - 115g - JHP
    98.) Load-X - 124g - JHP
    99.) M & M Reloads - 124g - CPFP (RL)
    100.) Magsafe Ammo, Inc. - 64g - Defender
    101.) Magsafe Ammo, Inc - 45g - Swat
    102.) Maine Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP (RL)
    103.) Master-Ammo Company -125g - CGFP (RL)
    104.) Master Cartridge - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    105.) Mid-South Munitions - 125g - FMJ
    106.) Mid-South Munitions - 125g - JHP
    107.) Middle Creek Shooting Supply - 124g - FN (RL)
    108.) Military Ballistics Industries - 124g - FMJ (RL)
    109.) Miwall - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    110.) Northern Hills Precision Ammo - 124g - HBFP (RL)
    111.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
    112.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (value line)(RL)
    113.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (premium line)
    114.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (premium line)
    115.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
    116.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (value line)(RL)
    117.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (premium line)
    118.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (premium line)
    **119.) PMC - 124g - FMJ
    **120.) PMC Starfire - 125g - JHP
    **121.) Precision Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    **122.) Precision Ammunition - 100g - copper matrix NTF (non-toxic frangible)
    123.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    124.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 100g -RNFP - frangible (RL)
    125.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - FMJ
    126.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - HP/XTP
    127.) Prograde - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    **128.) Pro-Load - 125g - JHP
    129.) Prvi Partizan - 125g - FPJ
    130.) RBCD - 60g - TFSP (total fragmenting soft point)
    131.) RBCD - 50g - TDP - total fragmenting sp
    132.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 90g - XTP
    133.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 115g - XTP
    134.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 124g - XTP
    135.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 147g - XTP
    136.) Reed's Ammo & research - 124g - Gold Sabre
    137.) Remington - 125g - JHP
    138.) Remington Gold Sabre - 125g - BJHP
    139.) Remington Disintegrator - 104g - plated frangible
    140.) Remington Disintegrator CTF - 100g - Frangible
    141.) RWS - 100g - copper matrix NTF
    142.) SBR - 124g - FMJ SRVT (short range visible tracer)
    143.) SBR - 124r - FMJ ERVT (extended range visible tracer)
    144.) SBR - 147g - TCJ (Southern Ballistics Research)
    145.) SBR - 130g - FMJ (TCJ) (Southern Ballistics Research)
    146.) Sellier & Belliot - 140g - FMJ
    147.) Sig Sauer - V-Crown - 125g - JHP
    148.) Sig Sauer - 125g - FMJ
    149.) Sillman Cartridge Company - 147g - FMJ
    150.) Silver Bullet Munitions - 124g - FP (RL)
    151.) Sperry Ballistics - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    152.) Tennessee Cartridge Company - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    **153.) Texas Ammunition Co. - 124g - FMJFP (RL)
    154.) Trident Ammunition - 124g - JHP (RL)
    **155.) Triton - 115g - QSHP
    **156.) Triton - 125g - JHP
    **157.) Triton - 135g - QSHP
    158.) Ultramax - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    159.) UMC - 125g - FMJ
    160.) UMC - 125g - JHP
    161.) Underwood Ammunition - 124g - HP (RL)
    162.) Underwood Ammo - 125g - GDJHP
    163.) Underwood Ammo - 125g - BFMJ
    164.) Underwood Ammo - 125g - JHP (Sierra bullet)
    165.) Underwood Ammo - 147g - GDJHP
    166.) Underwood Ammo - 125g - TAC-XP
    167.) Underwood Ammo - 115g - JHP
    168.) Underwood Ammo - 124g - JHP - XTP
    169.) Underwood Ammo - 115g - Xtreme Penetrator
    170.) Ventura Tactical - 125g - TC (Truncated Cone)(RL)
    171.) Village Tactical - 124g - CPFP (RL)
    **172.) Wagner Acuswage - 125g - TMJ (RL)
    173.) Washougal River Cartridge Company - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    174.) Webb's Brass Assets - 124g - FP
    175.) Winchester - 125g - FMJ
    176.) Winchester - 125g - JHP
    177.) Winchester - WinClean - 125g - BEB (brass enclosed base)
    178.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - SXT
    179.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - BJHP
    180.) Winchester Ranger - 100g - SF - frangible
    **181.) Winchester Super Clean NT - 105g - JSP
    182.) Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    183.) Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - HP (RL)

    ** - no longer manufactured
    (RL) - remanufactured round

    Links:


    DoubleTap Ammunition
    GTG Ammo
    Underwood Ammo
    Georgia Arms
    Parabellum Research
    Wisconsin Cartridge
    Precision One Ammunition
    Mid-South Munitions

    Maybe we should make a sticky out of this list as I seem to post it quite frequently. G33???
     
    #13 NitLion, Dec 15, 2004
    Last edited: May 5, 2015
  13. Pretty sure it's already out. :cool:
     
  14. Right!! That whole section was cut and pasted from another ( much earlier ) thread... like I said, I seem to post this often.
     
  15. Double Tap in .357 sig kicks ass.;f
     
  16. Duh!

    I have made the switch, too.
     
  17. tgtshuter

    tgtshuter Too Beaucoup

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    Looks like I'm gonna make the switch to Double Tap also.

    Damn!! Wasn't too long ago I did my 200 round test with the Speers!!!;g :(

    ^2
     
  18. wade farley

    wade farley Sonic 357 sig

    :cool: I've been using the Speer Gold Dots & Ranger SXT's for CCW rounds, but the DT looks interesting. Does anyone have the address to thier Website? Thank you, in advance. Have fun & stay safe! ;f ;f
     

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