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Speer Gold Dot vs. Double Tap

Discussion in 'TOP GUNS *357 Sig* Club' started by bruce21b, Dec 5, 2004.


  1. bruce21b

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    Hey all,

    does anyone know the difference between factory Speer Gold Dot and Double Tap Gold Dot as far as velocity f.p.s and ft. lbs. energy, if any??? thanks in advance:)
     

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    Double Tap:
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    4.5" barrel - 1525fps

    Speer:
    4.0" barrel - 1350fps

    Both have the same Gold Dot Bullet
     

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    Years of Speer...Now carry the DT.;f
     
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  7. bruce21b

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    Just ordered a box of Gold Dots from Double Tap, cant wait to try them out, thanks:)
     
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    :( May have to try these! I have carried the Speers for quite awhile! ;P Ummm! Where do you guys get them?;Q
     
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    Nevermind! Just found the address in MCNETT's post!;a Oops! Caught your post a second late Bruce!;P
     
  11. T Earl

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    I just ordered some double tap, I got a box of the gold dot and a box of the FMJ to try it out. Should be here in a week, I also have speer gold dots and I just got a box of Federal 125 JHP. When I get the double tap I plan on doing a side by side test, I have access to a chronograph, and plan on hitting some phone books, water jugs, ply wood and anything else we can think of. I have not seen any yet but does Remington, Winchester, PMC or anyone else make 125's ( or anything else for that matter) for the 357 sig which is readily available? The more I have the more I shall test to see which performs "best". Yes a highly subjective term, I should say which one I am personally happiest and most confident with. Oh I will be shooting them out of a G33, I just ordered a 40 conversion barrel for it but I don't know how much use I will be getting out of it, probably just go shoot some and say, see how much "better" it is in 357 !! Or if I am feeling cheap and want to pick up some cheap ammo.
    What are all your thoughts....
     
  12. SKeefe

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    Assuming you mean FMJ also...

    Winchester makes 357Sig in the white box, Remington makes it in the UMC yellow box, and PMC has some as well (and I believe all three make JHPs as well).
     
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    **1.) Advanced Ammunition - 124g - CMJ
    **2.) Advanced Ammunition - 124g - HP (Nosler)
    3.) Alabama Ammo Inc. - 125g - JHP
    4.) Alchemist Ammunition - 100g - CCF (frang)
    **5.) Appalachian Ammunition Inc. - 125g - JHP (RL)
    **6.) Atlanta Arms & Ammo - 124g - FP TCJ (RL)
    7.) Battle Born Ammunition - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    8.) Big Bear Firepower - 125g - JFP
    9.) Birds-n-Bullets - 124g - FMP (RL)
    **10.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    11.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 121g - JSP (RL)
    12.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    13.) Blue Ridge Cartridge - 124g - CPFP
    14.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - FMJ
    15.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - JHC
    16.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    **17.) CCI Speer Blazer - 125g - TMJ
    18.) CCI Speer Lawman -125g - TMJ
    19.) CCI Speer Lawman RHT - 100g - frangible
    20.) CCI Speer Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (23918 and 53918)
    21.) CCI Speer LE Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (54234)
    22.) CCI Speer Lawmen - 125g - TMJCF (clean-fire)
    23.) Clark Custom Cartridge Company -100g - incendiary
    **24.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - FMJ
    **25.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - JHP
    **26.) CNC Cartridge - 102g golden sabre - JHP
    **27.) Collins Cartridge Comp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    28.) Colorado Custom Cartridge - 115g - FMJ
    29.) Commonwealth Ammunition - 90g - frangible
    30.) Concepts In Ammunition - Home Defense Load (RB)
    31.) Concepts In Ammunition - Sport Load (RB)
    32.) C.O.P (Copper only Projectiles) - 125g - SCHP
    33.) Corbon - 115g - JHP
    34.) Corbon - 125g - JHP
    35.) Corbon DPX- 125g - DPX
    36.) Corbon Pow'R Ball - 100gr - PB
    **37.) Corbon BeeSafe - 91g - BS
    38.) County Line High Grade - 147g - HP CMJ (RL)
    39.) Crooked Creek Arms - 125g - JHP
    40.) Crossfire Ammunition - BlackMax - 125g - SCHP
    41.) Crossfire Ammunition - Tactical Grenade - 100g - FHP
    **42.) Dead Zero Ammunition - 125g - XTP
    43.) Detroit Ammunition Co. - 147g - HP (subsonic)(RL)
    44.) Detroit Bullet Works - 124g - HP(plated)(RL)
    45.) DFA - 85g - Nylon ( lead free )
    46.) DoubleTap - 125g - JHP
    47.) DoubleTap - 125g - FMJ
    48.) DoubleTap - 115g - JHP
    49.) DoubleTap - 147g - JHP
    50.) DoubleTap - 147g - FMJ
    51.) DoubleTap - 80g - Barnes TAC-XP
    52.) DoubleTap - 115g - Barnes TAC-XP
    53.) DoubleTap - 115g - Nosler JHP
    54.) DoubleTap - 180g - WFNGC hardcast
    55.) Dynamic Research Technologies(DRT) - 85g - HP
    56.) Eagle Brand Ammo - 125g - FMJFP (RL)
    57.) Extreme Shock Air Freedom - 85gr - AF
    58.) Extreme Shock Enhanced Penetration - 115g -frangible
    **59.) Extreme Shock - 90g - FFJHP
    60.) Extreme Shock - 124g - FFJHP
    61.) Extreme Shock-90g-JPT-(lead free-frangible)
    62.) Farrar Ballistics - 125g - TMJ (RL)
    63.) Federal American Eagle - 125g - FMJ
    64.) Federal - 125g - FMJ
    65.) Federal - 125g - JHP
    **66.) Federal - 150g - JHP
    67.) Federal - 100g - CC BallistiClean
    68.) Federal - 125g - HSTJHP
    69.) Federal - 125g - THP (Tactical HP - bonded)
    70.) Fiocchi - 124g - FMJ
    71.) Fiocchi - 124g -XTPHP
    72.) Fiocchi - 100g - SFN frangible
    73.) G2 Research R.I.P. - 92g - RIP HP
    74.) Garnet Ammunition Inc. - 125g - GDHP
    75.) Gene's Custom Ammo - 115g - Extreme JHP (RL)
    76.) Gene's Custom Ammo - 147g JHP -XTP (RL)
    77.) Gene's Custom Ammo - 124g - JFP (RL)
    78.) Georgia Arms - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    79.) Georgia Arms - 125g - GDHP (RL)
    80.) Glaser - Blue - 80g - Safety Slug
    81.) Glaser - Silver - 80g - Safety Slug
    82.) Good To Go Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
    83.) Good To Go Ammunition - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    84.) Great Lakes Ammunition - 121g - FN (RL)
    85.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 90g - JHP
    86.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - JHP
    87.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - FMJ-FP
    88.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP
    89.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 110g - Extreme (JHP)
    90.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 125g - FNMJ
    91.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 124g - XTPHP
    92.) Highland Lakes Ammo - 124g - FNCP (RL)
    93.) Hornady - 115g - FXT (critical defense)
    94.) Hornady - 124g - JHP
    95.) Hornady - 147g - JHP
    96.) Hornady - 124g - TAP CQ
    97.) Hornady - 147g - TAP CQ
    98.) Hornady - 135g - FlexLock (critical duty)
    99.) Hunting Shack Munitions - 124g - PFP (plated flat point) (RL)
    100.) Hunting Shack Munitions - 125g - TMJ (Speer)(RL)
    101.) Hyperion Munitions - 124g - FP
    **102.) Ike's Custom Ammunition - 124g - FP
    **103.) Ike's Custom Ammunition - 147 - HP - XTP
    104.) International Cartridge Corp. - 100g - HP - Duty - frang ( Green Elite duty)
    105.) International Cartridge Corp - 100g - FP -Green Elite - (NT)-frangible
    106.) J&J Ammunition - 124g - PHP (RL)
    107.) J&J Ammunition - 124g - HBFP (RL)
    108.) Jamison Brass and Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    **109.) Lancer Custom - 125g - FMJ
    **110.) Lancer Custom - 125g - XTP
    **111.) Lancer Custom - 125g - JHP
    112.) Lehigh Defense - 115g - Xtreme Penetrator
    113.) Lehigh Defense - 90g - Extreme Defense
    114.) Load-X - 124g - TMJ
    115.) Load-X - 115g - JHP
    116.) Load-X - 124g - JHP
    **117.) M & M Reloads - 124g - CPFP (RL)
    118.) Magsafe Ammo, Inc. - 64g - Defender
    119.) Magsafe Ammo, Inc - 45g - Swat
    120.) Maine Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP (RL)
    121.) Master-Ammo Company -125g - CGFP (RL)
    122.) Master Cartridge - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    123.) Mid-South Munitions - 125g - FMJ
    124.) Mid-South Munitions - 125g - JHP
    125.) Middle Creek Shooting Supply - 124g - FN (RL)
    126.) Military Ballistics Industries - 124g - FMJ (RL)
    127.) Miwall - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    128.) Modern Munitions - 125g - FP (RL)
    129.) Northern Hills Precision Ammo - 124g - HBFP (RL)
    130.) Northern Hills Precision Ammo - 147g - FP (RL)
    131.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
    132.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (value line)(RL)
    133.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (premium line)
    134.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (premium line)
    135.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
    136.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (value line)(RL)
    137.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (premium line)
    138.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (premium line)
    139.) Parabellum Research - 100g - RHFP (value line) frangible
    **140.) PMC - 124g - FMJ
    **141.) PMC Starfire - 125g - JHP
    **142.) Precision Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    **143.) Precision Ammunition - 100g - copper matrix NTF (non-toxic frangible)
    144.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    145.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 100g -RNFP - frangible (RL)
    146.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - FMJ
    147.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - HP/XTP
    148.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - JHP
    149.) Prograde - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
    **150.) Pro-Load - 125g - JHP
    151.) Prvi Partizan - 125g - FPJ
    152.) RBCD - 60g - TFSP (total fragmenting soft point)
    153.) RBCD - 50g - TDP - total fragmenting sp
    154.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 90g - XTP
    155.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 115g - XTP
    156.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 124g - XTP
    157.) Reed's Ammo & Research - 147g - XTP
    158.) Reed's Ammo & research - 124g - Gold Sabre
    159.) Remington - 125g - JHP
    160.) Remington Gold Sabre - 125g - BJHP
    161.) Remington Disintegrator - 104g - plated frangible
    162.) Remington Disintegrator CTF - 100g - Frangible
    163.) RWS - 100g - copper matrix NTF
    164.) Sasquatch Ammunition - 124g - CPF
    165.) SBR - 124g - FMJ SRVT (short range visible tracer)
    166.) SBR - 124r - FMJ ERVT (extended range visible tracer)
    167.) SBR - 147g - TCJ (Southern Ballistics Research)
    168.) SBR - 130g - FMJ (TCJ) (Southern Ballistics Research)
    169.) Sellier & Belliot - 140g - FMJ
    170.) Sharp Shooter Ammunition - 125g - JHP (RL)
    171.) Sig Sauer - V-Crown - 125g - JHP
    172) Sig Sauer - 125g - FMJ
    **173.) Sillman Cartridge Company - 147g - FMJ
    174.) Silver Bullet Munitions - 124g - FP (RL)
    175.) Sperry Ballistics - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    176.) Team Never Quit - 100g - HP frangible
    177.) Tennessee Cartridge Company - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    **178.) Texas Ammunition Co. - 124g - FMJFP (RL)
    179.) TNT Munitions- 125g - FMJ - FP
    180.) TNT Munitions - 147g - XTP
    181.) Trident Ammunition - 124g - JHP (RL)
    **182.) Triton - 115g - QSHP
    **183.) Triton - 125g - JHP
    **184.) Triton - 135g - QSHP
    185.) Ultramax - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    186.) UMC - 125g - FMJ
    187.) UMC - 125g - JHP
    188.) Underwood Ammunition - 124g - HP (RL)
    189.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - GDJHP
    190.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - BFMJ
    191.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - JHP (Sierra bullet)
    192.) Underwood Ammunition - 147g - GDJHP
    193.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - TAC-XP
    194.) Underwood Ammunition - 115g - JHP
    195.) Underwood Ammunition- 124g - JHP - XTP
    196.) Underwood Ammunition - 115g - Xtreme Penetrator
    197.) Underwood Ammunition - 90g - Xtreme Defender
    198.) Underwood Ammunition - 124g - JHP (Nosler)
    199.) Underwood Ammunition - 147g - JHP - XTP
    200.) Ventura Tactical - 125g -TC (Truncated Cone)(RL)
    201.) Vet-Made Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
    202.) Village Tactical - 124g - CPFP (RL)
    **203.) Wagner Acuswage - 125g - TMJ (RL)
    204.) Washougal River Cartridge Company - 124g - TMJ (RL)
    **205.) Webb's Brass Assets - 124g - FP
    206.) Winchester - 125g - FMJ
    207.) Winchester - 125g - JHP
    208.) Winchester - WinClean - 125g - BEB (brass enclosed base)
    209.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - SXT
    210.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - BJHP
    211.) Winchester Ranger - 100g - SF - frangible
    **212.) Winchester Super Clean NT - 105g - JSP
    213.) Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
    214.) Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - HP (RL)






    ** - no longer manufactured
    (RL) - remanufactured round
     
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  14. SKeefe

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    Pretty sure it's already out. :cool:
     
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    Right!! That whole section was cut and pasted from another ( much earlier ) thread... like I said, I seem to post this often.
     
  16. Semore Butts

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    Double Tap in .357 sig kicks ass.;f
     
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    Duh!

    I have made the switch, too.
     
  18. tgtshuter

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    Looks like I'm gonna make the switch to Double Tap also.

    Damn!! Wasn't too long ago I did my 200 round test with the Speers!!!;g :(

    ^2
     
  19. wade farley

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    :cool: I've been using the Speer Gold Dots & Ranger SXT's for CCW rounds, but the DT looks interesting. Does anyone have the address to thier Website? Thank you, in advance. Have fun & stay safe! ;f ;f
     
  20. bruce21b

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