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Source for a Saiga 12

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by Louisville Glocker, Jan 28, 2011.

  1. Louisville Glocker

    Louisville Glocker Urban Redneck

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    Hi,
    I'm thinking about getting a Saiga 12. Preferably, with some modifications. The Red Jacket ones look incredibly cool. Pistol grip is a given. Some kind of front hand guard. And a folding stock would be nice.

    I see a lot of places don't have them, or they're out of stock. Do you folks know of some stores you could point me towards? (online, of course, most likely).

    I saw Atlantic Firearms has a limited selection. But I think that's just about the only store I've come across that has anything more than the absolute basic.

    Thanks!
     
  2. Workin

    Workin

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    You should just buy a stock one and convert it yourself, minimal tooling is required for the job.
     


  3. mac66

    mac66 Huge Member Millennium Member

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    I guess the run is on.

    I used to see them at Dunham's Sports, not sure if they still carry them.
     
  4. K-VAR still has them, though they are increasing their prices every few days. What went for $489 last week went for $519 through yesterday. Now, they are going for $539.

    http://www.k-var.com/shop/home.php?cat=415
     
  5. LEAD

    LEAD

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    Good thing the first two are good leads... The other two seem to get their hands on them pretty frequently.
     
  6. Louisville Glocker

    Louisville Glocker Urban Redneck

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    Has anyone here moved the trigger forward? Just wondering how tough that procedure is (necessary when putting grip/stock on).

    Thanks...
     
  7. rjrivero

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    Yes. I've done a couple of them. If you have any mechanical aptitude, it's easy to do.

    I highly recommend doing a "conversion." It helps to balance the shotgun, as well as taking that crappy linkage out of the the trigger that is required to make it importable.

    You want to make sure you change enough of the parts to be 922(r) compliant if you are going to use it with a pistol grip and high capacity magazines.

    www.forum.saiga-12.com has all the info and a dedicated group of Saiga enthusiasts to help you with your decisions.

    Best of luck.

    RJ
     
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2011
  8. DD26

    DD26 Anti-Anti

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    No idea on MAA, but MD Arms isn't out indefinitely. Not S12's in general, at least. Mike said they're going to start carrying their own converted S12's soon. (They're doing the conversions in-house, not just distributing other converter's guns)
     
  9. Ok. To be clear, yes, MD Arm will be selling Saigas again relatively soon. However, they will be high dollar conversions that they build from the inventory they held back from retail sale. They won't be getting any more S12s to add to their conversion inventory for who knows how long.

    On Monday, they released 20 stock guns and sold them all in about 90 minutes at a price of $499 each. You probably won't be able to buy an unconverted $499 Saiga from them again for a long time, if ever. I don't know of anyone currently in the conversion business who also sells the $499 vodka special when with only a little extra investment, they can sell the same unit of inventory for double or triple that.
     
  10. LEAD

    LEAD

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    It takes a couple hours to take everything apart, paint it and get it back together, but the procedure isn't too complicated in my opinion. I am glad I did mine myself.
     
  11. Scattergun1187

    Scattergun1187 Vote Republican

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    I saw a few at my local dealer. But you would have to do the conversion to them.
     
  12. mac66

    mac66 Huge Member Millennium Member

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    I did mine 6 years ago. Not to hard to do. There are however stocks now that simply bolt on behind the existing trigger. It is as easy as taking off the factory stock and putting on the new one. Nothing else to do and they don't look too bad.
     
  13. method

    method

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    Using a bolt on PG stock does nothing to address the balance and trigger though.
     
  14. LEAD

    LEAD

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    glad you did yours right mac66, cheating by using the bolt behind grips still leaves you with a trigger with much to be desired, and an ugly gap between the trigger and magazine, and a very front heavy design as the poster after you adressed. Much cheaper, but for the benefits you gain I would say your investment would hold less value per dollar than if you did the conversion/restoration properly.
     
  15. DaGroaner

    DaGroaner Anti-Socialist

    I own three Red Jacket firearms and can tell you first-hand that you can't wrong with them.