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Something to ponder re: the 2016 election

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by Rizzo, Nov 9, 2012.

  1. Fear Night

    Fear Night NRA Life Member

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    The difference is ...

    Clinton signed welfare reform into law, which reduced his support from welfare recipients.

    Obama is expanding welfare, which increases his support from welfare recipients.

    2016 will mean the welfare recipients will vote for whoever can keep the free stuff flowing.
     
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  2. Flying-Dutchman

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    Very interesting. Looking over the data, the GOP should be careful as to what positions they should change otherwise they may do even worse.

    They have strong support from certain groups they need not alienate.

    There is room for improvement but Obama defined the Republicans and the sheeple bought it.

    Going Democrat -Lite will not work.
     
  3. Flying-Dutchman

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    More and more I believe Romney lost because he is a Mormon.

    What a shame.
     
  4. The GOP went Dem-lite with both McCain and Romney. Didn't work.

    What the sheeple bought was the MSM created image of both Obama and Romney. No matter what Romney did he was painted by the MSM as some sort of racist, woman hating, religious nut out to cut every one's government entitlements.
     
  5. jdavionic

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    Irreversable damage is done. By 2016, you will hardly recognize our nation. Might as well let it collapse completely and hope for a better rebuild.
     
  6. ruffterrain

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    Time to unite around the one candidate who will defeat Hillary in 2016...

    [​IMG]
     
  7. RyanSBHF

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    One thing is certain; the incumbent party rarely wins a third term.

    Personally, I think 2000 and 2004 featured the most boring candidates in a LONG time. It's no wonder the margin of victory was so small both times.

    Obama won not only because people were sick of Bush but also because the Reps were dumb enough to select an unelectable RINO like McCain. If they had found a better candidate they may have won, or at least been more competitive. 2012 was even worse, selecting a huge wimp like Romney.
     
  8. RyanSBHF

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    No party can survive with limited support. They're an undeniable part of the Republican Party but not the only one. Democrats manage to hold together a vast coalition of groups who seemingly have nothing in common. How bizarre is it that we're actually seeing LGBT and Muslims voters going for the same candidates?

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-sailer-strategy-updated-three-steps-to-save-america

    The GOP can win with the Sailer Strategy. This is why I believe Trump will smoke Hillary in November. She has a serious problem with the white vote, just look how Bernie Sanders has managed to beat her in heavily white states.
     
  9. RyanSBHF

    RyanSBHF Senior Member

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    The negative effect of Evangelicals on the Republican Party is overstated.

    The real reason they're losing is because they're neglecting their most important base, whites. Minority outreach has been a complete disaster for Republicans. The Democrats have been playing identity politics for years. Will the Republicans finally wise up and reach out to the group that comprises at least 70% of this nation?
     
  10. jeanderson

    jeanderson Toga!... Toga! Platinum Member

    George H W Bush was the only one in my lifetime. Never have seem a one-term Republican. Jimmy Carter was the only 1 term Democrat.
     
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  12. janice6

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    People who can be bought this easily will never be free of slavery. They protest the slave owners, yet allow themselves to be bought, lock, stock, and barrel.


    “Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” William Pitt, 18 Nov 1783


    “It stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there is service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be master.” Ayn Rand
     
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  13. Maxx702

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    I agree the GOP would be wise to stay away from abortion, birth control, gay marriage, and marijuana.
    Like it or not the SCOTUS has already ruled on abortion and gay marriage, and the law of the land has been established.
    Let the states decide on marijuana.

    There are so many subjects the Republicans could hammer the Donkeyrats on, yet they refuse to do so, I really have come to believe there isn't that much difference between the two.
     
  14. Maxx702

    Maxx702 Infamous Member

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    The liberals have done so much to poison the minds and destroy the spirit of the black community.
    Obama is the worst offender of all.
     
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  15. CAcop

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    When the party becomes about the power of the Fed to force people not to have abortions or not allow same sex marriage but then turn and want states rights to prevail for gun control or other issues then it loses its soul.

    States rights and limited federal government should be the guiding principle of the GOP. People like to be free. Use that.
     
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  16. CAcop

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    Bernie is beating her because a significant chunk of the Democratic Party thinks she is a conservative.

    Let that sink in.

    They will hold their nose and vote for her in November because the alternative is President Trump. Kasich has the best poll numbers now because he is the least threatening to the Democrats. He will never get the nomination but he has the best numbers. Rubio had even better numbers. Look where he is now.

    I think the GOP will crash and burn in November. Trump will try to blame the establishment. There better be some soul searching or 2020 is going to be a waste of time. It may be 2024 before the GOP can get back to the white house. By then America will be fundamentally changed and the GOP will have to change or never see power beyond southern and plains states.