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Some Gunfighting Tips

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by Valor1, Aug 23, 2004.

  1. Valor1

    Valor1 Pro Paingiver

    Jul 6, 2003
    Urban areas
    1. Use cover.

    Forget what you saw on TV and movies where the protagonists just spouts his bullets like there’s no tomorrow while walking forward with no cover or bulletproof vest. No matter how great a shooter you are, your assailant can and will hit you. Chances are you will get shot at all times. Your bigger gun with the .700 caliber ammo won’t stand a chance if your attackers are hiding and you are there in the center of the limelight.

    2. Train yourself to shoot at 10 yards or less.

    Many gunfights occur at these distances and forget about some matches you joined before. Some street attacks even occur at distances of five feet. There are even cases that are closer. If the target is more than 25 meters, you’ll have other options of whether hiding or letting the assailant go away.

    3. Learn Point Shooting and any other shooting positions.

    In gunfights, you may only have a few split seconds to look at the sights or even none at all. There is even a loss of motor skills in a gunfight. I’m not saying the Isosceles and Weaver stances are ineffective but there are chances you won’t have the chance to use them. Some shooting will entail shooting from many positions (seating, lying, etc.) especially if you are using cover. You can also try to train yourself shooting and reloading with your weak hand. There may be instances where your strong hand might get shot or is unavailable.

    4. Match shooting is not Combat shooting.

    Matches are there to duplicate some real life situations but not all. You don’t present your gun from a CR Speed holster nor do you arrange your mags the same way as in a competition gear. Your magazine reloading techniques are different from a gunfight. Even your trigger pull in a match gun is different.

    5. Practice dry-firing and mirror training.

    Nobody can discount the idea of dry-firing. This is the time to get a good sight picture while pulling the trigger and making sure you are not doing any unnecessary movements while shooting. You can also train yourself to “present” your weapon from your chosen holster.

    6. Train on other Unarmed Combat Skills

    There may be situations where weapon retention is very important. Other situations may require that you use your hands (or brute force) before you can get access to your gun. Or perhaps unarmed skills might make your needing to reach for that gun unnecessary? Perhaps its time to get a replacement for Steven Seagal or Bruce Lee?

    These are just starting points for us who don’t want to get involved or hurt in a gun battle. People should always plan and train realistically. The best way to win in a gunfight is not to get involved in one. Well, if you should get involved, let’s just see that all factors are involved in your favor (including luck)
  2. bulm540


    Jun 18, 2004
    wouldn't you agree however to be with an IPSC shooter rather then with somebody else when sH&*^ happens.. I would ( just my 2 cents).

  3. 9MX

    9MX Rei!

    Sep 29, 2003
    provided that IPSC shooter has enough wits to maintain a tactical edge.

    "you don't bring a knife to a gunfight" - steven seagal

    i guess it goes the same for the mindset as well:cool:
  4. rhino465


    Sep 24, 2003
    Indiana, USA
    Don't forget to move!

    If you can move and shoot at the same time and get good hits, do it! If you have to move then shoot, then haul a** and shoot. Getting your body away from your initial position is going to really enhance survival.
  5. If you're going to a gunfight be ready to kill or be killed. There's no room for error here, no rules, no foul, always cheat.If you falter, it will be your last.GUTS and CONFIDENCE are the key words. How do you develop these things?

    Some of us are born with instinct to kill, others weaker inside.However, through proper training, mind setting and simulations one could achieve traits necessary to survive a gunfight.IDPA training/competition is one training ground where these traits could be developed. The more you compete, the higher is the level of self-confidence and awareness.

    One more thing, please don't go to a gunfight.If it comes, not by own will and doing, don't get caught unprepared. After all this is what Band of Glockers is all about. Stay safe! ;)
  6. vega


    Sep 29, 2001
    I read somewhere that it is not advisable to practice in front of a mirror. You get distracted because you get busy admiring how handsome you look.;f You could get a video camera and tape yourself drawing and you can review it later with a friend, at the same time you could also admire how handsome you look.;)

    When I was new to shooting and competition, we video'ed ourselves while competing. We studied our movements and give each other pointers where we need inprovements.

  7. Valor1

    Valor1 Pro Paingiver

    Jul 6, 2003
    Urban areas
    Thanks for the other tips. I know there will be more tips coming in. Oh yes. Clint said,"Always cheat and alway win." and "Shoot and move." He he he
  8. glck17


    May 27, 2004
    ALWAYS have this as a mindset:

    Observe, Orient, Decide, Act!
  9. mikey177

    mikey177 Remember

    Jan 28, 2003
    Tip: When involved in a fight for your life, NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER GIVE UP!
  10. Alexii

    Alexii Janeway Forever

    Nov 14, 2001
    Delta Quadrant
    It's no question that most gunfights occur at conversational distances, hence the importance of moving before, during, and after shooting. Before those, I think it's important to preset the mental trigger. Personally, some of these preset mental triggers are the items held in the adversary's hands (gun, knife, baseball bat, lead pipe, etc.). Other mental triggers are disparity of force in terms of physical build and multiple assailants regardless they're armed with UZIs or just plain bad attitude.

    How you engage a lone assailant is important too. It is generally favorable to move laterally towards the strong side of the assailant, i.e. the back of his gun hand. Given the the distance, we may even expedite this to our advantage by slapping his gun hand towards his weak side while drawing our pistol (another reason why practicing one-handed shooting is important). The reason for this is-- it is more difficult for him to redirect and reorient from this position so he can hammer you COM post haste. Imagine you're a right-handed baseball pitcher and your target is 12 o'clock. It's easier to redirect a throw to 9 o'clock in the last fraction of a second rather than on the other side, 3 o'clock. The 3 o'clock position is generally where we defenders want to be.

    There is no clear cut rule in winning gunfights. It is a situation one must avoid as far as the circumstances will allow it. But knowing what to do, having preset mental triggers, and most of all, the combat mindset of keeping your hide for yourself and your loved ones, might very well provide us a fresh lease on life one day.
  11. Longbow

    Longbow Millennium Member

    Sep 19, 1999
    North of Chica-go
    First and foremost try to avoid it if possible!! But if you should fight, fight to win!! That's the proper mindset, IMO.
    With that out of the way,...... move and shoot while going for cover (if its available), create distance, try not to hesitate, try not to give up even if you're hit(just because you're shot, doesn't mean you're dead!). And if possible, remember to hunch while moving, to make yourself a smaller, moving target.
    On a side note, make sure you carry a gun, that you know without a doubt, that works. Know thy weapon!