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SOLD OUT!!!! by the NRA

Discussion in 'Indiana Glockers' started by IronHorseman, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. I wonder what the price will be on gun registration? If the feds are going to pay the state to maintain the NICS database they will no doubt bribe the state to start a gun registration program ( we just got that 4473 problem fixed here in Indiana ) and force trigger lock usage. Remember the Gun Maker protection act had language inserted by the DemonRats to require locks be sold with all new handguns. Will we get stuck with required usage of these locks now?
    The NRA is great when it comes to youth programs and competitive shooting but they are a sorry excuse for a gun rights group. I need to maintain my NRA membership because of my club affiliation but I`m depending on the GOA and my fellow 2nd Amendment Patriots to defend my rights.

    WP: Dems, NRA reach deal on gun bill - Highlights -
  2. Prometheus77

    Prometheus77 GOA - RWVA

    Jun 29, 2005
    The NRA has been selling gun owner down the river for years.

    I think more people are waking up. The NRA that my grandfather belonged to is NOT the same NRA of today.

    I dumped my support of the NRA back in 2001, I've been with the GOA since 2000.

    I also make sure they know why I won't ever join as a life member... because I don't want to see them go the way of the NRA and they have to earn my membership every year.

  3. rhino465


    Sep 24, 2003
    Indiana, USA
    The late Neil Knox was the last vestige of what NRA should have been, but as we all know, he was ousted by the compromisers and other wussies in the mid 1990s.

    I'll keep my NRA membership for a variety of reasons, but their pathetic job as fighting the RKBA battle is not one of them. I too am a GOA member. I need to renew my 2nd Amendment Foundation and JPFO memberships too.
  4. KSFreeman

    KSFreeman Broken Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Lafayette, Indiana
    The bill contains nothing that you cite in your parade of horribles.

    What specifically are you upset about?
  5. KSFreeman

    KSFreeman Broken Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Lafayette, Indiana
    How has the NRA "sold you down the river"?
  6. That`s easy,they compromised on a gun control measure.They should have flatly opposed it.
  7. slewfoot

    slewfoot Random Mayhem

    May 13, 2007
    S.E. Pa
    I know of a couple of former NRA members that quit BECAUSE the NRA would not compromise.

    Maybe they are getting feedback from members to try to stick to the middle of the road.

    I am not one of those. Give the anti gunners an inch and they will take the whole nine yards.

    The worst thing we could do is let the likes of Schumer and Lautenberg smell blood in the water.

  8. AMEN!!!
  9. thetoastmaster

    thetoastmaster NOT a sheepdog!

    No compromise! Not now, not ever!

  10. KSFreeman

    KSFreeman Broken Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Lafayette, Indiana
    What "compromise"?

    What was illegal is still illegal. The antis have gained nothing and more money is pledged to states so that mental health records which already disqualify certain individuals can be updated.
  11. PMY


    Mar 4, 2005
    Mishawaka, Indiana
    At the risk of having my bone fides questioned, I note that there's more than a little irony in the GOA rushing to the defense of the certified insane.
  12. KSFreeman

    KSFreeman Broken Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Lafayette, Indiana
    I'll ask again today and see if I get an answer: what is everyone so upset about? The antis gained absolutely nothing. "Compromise" implies that we lost something, put your finger on what we lost. It was illegal for the insane to possess firearms, it is still illegal for the insane to possess firearms.

    Is there something specifically that you object to? Or, do you just object to the NRA talking to the antis? Again the antis got nothing and just yesterday the antis were stating that they will not attach anything to the bill and the NRA said that if they did it would die.

    The antis got jack squat. Why is everyone so upset?
  13. Skyhook


    Nov 4, 2002
    Here we go again.

    "I hate Wal-Mart" thread must be next.:upeyes:
  14. MakeMineaP99

    MakeMineaP99 Got SIG?

    Apr 11, 2002
    N. IN
    +1. What has changed? Prohibited persons were introduced in the GCA of '68.
  15. Jerseycitysteve


    Nov 11, 2004
    Of course nothing has changed! Two kinds of folks hate the NRA. The first are the RKBA purists who want guns sold like hammers. The second just want to justify not paying dues.
  16. Loucks


    May 11, 2007
    Central Indiana
    First type reporting in!

  17. At the onset I was in favor of tracking the mental patients' information but now I have made a totally 180 degree turn!

    We and the NRA both are being duped! The measure is a feel good action at best and has the stench and severe undertones of Socialism/Communism in the way it is set up!

    A recent report indicates the medical community has no central clearing house to readily allow anyone or agency to glean such information in the first place? Where is the funding for such data collection and reporting and who will manage the data if it is collected?

    Check these links:

    And by allowing information to be released it opens all kinds of privacy violation possibilities,

    The biggest and best program ran out of funding recently and is being dismantled?

    More morons in politics with short sighted goals and no real answers or leadership!


  18. KSFreeman

    KSFreeman Broken Member

    Jul 10, 2001
    Lafayette, Indiana
    Blitz, O.K., that's reasoned. So, you are against this bill because of potential privacy concerns?

    If so, a valid point, but wouldn't increased criminal and civil penalties for violating privacy correct this?
  19. Prometheus77

    Prometheus77 GOA - RWVA

    Jun 29, 2005
    Privacy concerns are the tip of the ice berg on this thing.

    How about the 83,000 returning Iraqi and afgan veterans who will be prohibited from buy a firearm from a FFL because of their 'PTSD' flag?

    Sure the Dingle, Mccarthy and the NRA will let them 'petition' to have ther name cleared... After months of court dates and find a shrink who will sign off that they 'aren't a danger and sign off on gun ownership'. I'm sure every returning serviceman (and woman) has a few thousand dolalrs laying around they don't mind giving to a laywer to straiten that little 'misunderstanding' up.

    How about the "flag drugs" burried in the bill? Ever take welbutrin to quit smoking? Guess what, it's a drug for depression as well and falls well within the purvue of the bill...

    Oh yeah, nothing wrong all with this bill :upeyes:
  20. thetoastmaster

    thetoastmaster NOT a sheepdog!

    Is there a particular clause or word above that you do not understand?

    Who decides who's ill? Who decides when they're no longer ill? Isn't putting psychologists and psychiatrists (that are traditionally anti-gun) in charge of deciding who may take arms putting the fox in charge of the henhouse?

    I thought that these rights were natural, that they came from a Higher Power, and were not boons granted by the State, or its agents.