close

Privacy guaranteed - Your email is not shared with anyone.

So why would I?

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by Madmax1010, Feb 2, 2012.


  1. Madmax1010

    Madmax1010
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2009
    498
    0
    So why would I carry a 40 cal such as a g23gen4 instead of 45acp?

    I am asking this question because I am looking for opinions and trying to convince myself to switch from 45 to 40. Give some reasons.
    Getting older and looking carry a smaller/lighter package around.
     

    Wanna kill these ads? We can help!
  2. SCSU74

    SCSU74
    Expand Collapse
    St. Cloud Proud

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2010
    2,010
    0
    Location:
    The Northwoods
    Might as well switch to 9. Recoil of .40 is way too snappy for me. If I couldn't carry my 21 anymore it would be my 19


    Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine
     

  3. Quarter Tank

    Quarter Tank
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2011
    503
    0
    Location:
    ATL
    I decided to go full on with a Gen4 21. I decided to go with the biggest caliber bullet in Glock possible
     
  4. Billy10mm

    Billy10mm
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    1,308
    3
    Location:
    Hartsdale, NY
    Because the .40 bullet has a smaller footprint and more muzzle energy which loosely translates to better penetration, holds more rounds in a magazine, can use a smaller frame which helps people with smaller hands, and best of all - is less expensive.

    Any questions?
     
  5. HerrGlock

    HerrGlock
    Expand Collapse
    Scouts Out
    CLM

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2000
    23,791
    178
    If you can shoot it as well or better, change.

    Thing is, even if you pick up a .32 auto, if you carry it 100% of the time it's a better gun than a .45 that you carry 1/2 the time because it's too heavy or doesn't fit with your clothing choices.

    Someone's going to gripe about that so I'll put it more bluntly. A .32 you have on you is infinitely better than a .45 that's still in the night stand at home.
     
  6. uglyblackguns

    uglyblackguns
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2012
    54
    0
    Very well put

    Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine
     
  7. RussP

    RussP
    Expand Collapse
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    32,343
    1,580
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    Agree, well said.
     
  8. bruzer

    bruzer
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2011
    624
    0
    Location:
    Grants Pass, Oregon
    For me I like the versatility of the Glock .40 platform. With conversion kits I can shoot 9mm and .22 all from my carry gun. I use the .22 for cheap, cheap practice and speed steel, 9mm for faster follow up shots and to save a few bucks at IDPA matches and then .40 for carry.
    Good luck and stay safe,
    Mike
     
  9. RussP

    RussP
    Expand Collapse
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2003
    32,343
    1,580
    Location:
    Central Virginia
    You say, "conversion kits," when you go from .40 to 9mm, are there any changes other than dropping in the barrel and changing mags?
     
    #9 RussP, Feb 2, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2012
  10. Pierre!

    Pierre!
    Expand Collapse
    NRA Life Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2003
    3,907
    92
    Location:
    Lovin Sparks Nv!
    In my experience you can go with 9mm, .40, and .357Sig with just mags and the barrel. I have done this with 2 or 3 G22s over the years, and the other 2 guys love the system.

    The .40 mags have so far been quite reliable for .357Sig as well.

    So start with a G22 or G31 - and just purchase the required barrels and magazines. I don't know that G31 mags will perform as reliably as the G22 mags as you interchange .40/.357Sig ammo...

    For the OP:
    Round count vs Size vs Comfort vs Ability To Conceal - these would be some of the reasons for changing caliber... as long as you can hit well with it, and you have confidence in the firearm, you would be good to go!

    HTH

    Patrick
     
  11. HerrGlock

    HerrGlock
    Expand Collapse
    Scouts Out
    CLM

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2000
    23,791
    178
    WARNING: Yes, there is. Going from .357 Sig to .40 S&W is a barrel change. Going from .40 to 9mm is not.

    Early '90s a buddy and I were shooting bowling pins. I shot two or three (can't remember any more) racks of them and went up for the new set. Two shots later my glock (G23) jams up good. Took two of us and a lot of careful maneuvering to get the round out and clear the gun.

    Took it back to the waiting area and started REALLY looking over the gun. Turns out I had his G19 lower on my G23 slide/barrel. G23 magazines will fit fine but the ejector is shorter for a 9mm than it is for a .40 but not by much and I got away with it for a few iterations until one round slid in exactly the right spot to get wedged into it somehow to freeze up the gun.

    Gen1 and Gen2 frames you also have to be careful with because there's two pins in the receiver of a .40 and only one in a 9mm. They changed that up somewhere in Gen2 and I believe all Gen3+ are the stronger version regardless of caliber.

    So yes you can go from .40 to 9mm for the range. I would never in my life carry one in a pistol made for the other with just a barrel change, though.

    This is one primary reason I don't own a 9mm Glock. It's way too easy to "oops"
     
  12. xmanhockey7

    xmanhockey7
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    2,276
    61
    Location:
    Michigan
    .40 is going to have more capacity in a smaller package.
     
  13. HarleyGuy

    HarleyGuy
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2008
    3,401
    119
    I have many "concealable" handguns and about as many holsters to carry them in, but the gun that I most always carry is my Kel-Tec.32 simply because of it's size and weight.
    The next closest (that I carry regularly) to that is my Glock 27 in either a Milt Sparks Summer Special or an Executive Companion.
    The G27 is a very capable gun, but due to it's size and weight it's about the limit in what I want to carry around all day long

    Both of these guns are cheap (EDC) utility guns and if they get scratched or wet or whatever I don't give "a rats rear end".

    Some say that the little BUG guns are useless, but I don't think anyone would want to have a mag full of .32's emptied into them and if that's all I've got available to me (which is al lot better than nothing)and that's what I'll use if necessary.
     
    #13 HarleyGuy, Feb 2, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2012
  14. EAJuggalo

    EAJuggalo
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2005
    1,044
    9
    Location:
    Eagan, MN
    The only difference between G22 and G31 mags is the caliber stamp on the back of the mag. In '04 I purchased G22 mags for my G31 since at that time you couldn't find any 15rd mags stamped 357. Approximately 10,000 rounds through each of them without a problem. Remember, the only difference between a G22 and a G31 is the barrel and a slight difference in the height of the sights.
     
  15. HerrGlock

    HerrGlock
    Expand Collapse
    Scouts Out
    CLM

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2000
    23,791
    178
    The .357 magazines do have the bottleneck shape at the top and the .40 do not.

    No, there's no issue using .40 mags for the .357 Sig Glocks but the stamp is not the only difference.
     
  16. larry_minn

    larry_minn
    Expand Collapse
    Silver Member Millennium Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 1999
    8,513
    288
    Location:
    Minnesota
    There can be many reasons. (some even good ones) :)

    I normally carry a 9 or .380. I find the 9mm much cheaper to shoot more rds. In same size frame I still normally use 9mm..
     
  17. sr975j

    sr975j
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    May 2, 2010
    1,066
    1
    Location:
    Cincinnati, OH
    because i carry either a 23 or 27 and im awesome. everyone should strive to be like me :supergrin:

    Sam
     
  18. Turk

    Turk
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2002
    233
    1
    Location:
    Polk County, Iowa
    Given the fact that we have so many choices what would be a good source of information (on the net) that shows and explains the differences of one caliber to the other in terms of performance and ballistics?
     
  19. cowboy1964

    cowboy1964
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2009
    18,684
    1,269
    Location:
    U.S.A.
    By that logic a hot 9mm will out penetrate a .40, making the 9mm superior to the .40 and the .45.

    http://le.atk.com/pdf/GoldDotPoster.pdf

    Momentum and sectional density are much more critical for penetration than energy is.
     
    #19 cowboy1964, Feb 3, 2012
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2012
  20. bobhock

    bobhock
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    9
    0
    .45. Because they don't make a .46.
     
Loading...
Similar Threads Forum Date
This is why I would not lock up my guns The Okie Corral Dec 17, 2014
I now realize why I was hired so quickly... Cop Talk Jul 23, 2014
Why would I shoot a revolver better? General Firearms Forum Jul 11, 2012
Why am I so much stronger? Strength & Conditioning May 24, 2006
Why am I so tired??? The Lighter Side Mar 30, 2004
Duty Gear at CopsPlus