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SO ive decided on the Lee Classic Turret kit!

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Fwdftw, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. Fwdftw

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    Now what other items will i need to be ready to rock and roll??

    I know ill need:
    Tumbler
    Dies

    But a friend was suggestion.. Rifle Charging Die, Dual Disk For the Powder Hopper.. So i just wanna make sure when i order i get everything i need for the time being..

    Intend to reload 308 .45 and .223

    Thank You SO MUCH for your time.
     
  2. XDRoX

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    I have no idea what you'll need. I remember it to be very confusing. But good choice and welcome to the club:wavey:
     


  3. Fwdftw

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    hey hey im glad to be joining.. found my bench ( reinforced computer desk)! , Convinced the fiance to let me take over the extra bed room! im ready to rock and roll!
     
  4. Colorado4Wheel

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    If you order from Kempf's it comes with the Dies. After that you got to decide how you are going to load your rifle. Full length vs neck sizing. That type of thing. Whatever you do DO NOT get the LCT kit with the Lee scale. Just trust me.
     
  5. Boxerglocker

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    Get your LCT from Kempfs gunshop online... thier kit has everything including dies to load one caliber of your choice. I would start with .45 ACP
    In addition you will need a good scale, Dillon beam would be a good choice, a caliper, case gauge or use your barrel. Tumbler kit with media a manual and you good to go.
    Later add dies and a spare turret for each extra caliber and of course case prep tools for rifle.
    The kempfs kit goes for about $220 dellivered with both upgrades, best price for a LCT online.
     
  6. PsychoKnight

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    You're gonna have to buy different things at different places, but its worth the effort to get the right items.
    Kempf's
    LCT Rifle Kit (one caliber included, comes with Double Disk Kit & rifle charging die)
    Lee Pistol Carbide 4-Die Sets
    Turret for each additional die set (gman12, good catch)
    Riser for each extra torret (stumpjumper, thnx)

    direct from Dillon Precision
    Dillon Eliminator Scale ($54) , 3-poise scale is a must (2-poise will mess you up, the mind does not think in increments of 5, this model has better knife bearing, more solid base, and cheaper than RCBS505, but the Lee scale will make you hate life itself)
    Dillon Case Gage ($15handgun $25rifle) for each caliber: if your rounds drop in easy and don't stick out, it will chamber in your gun

    From MidwayUSA
    Tumbler Kit $64
    Digital Caliper (any under $30, out of stock , all the same manufacturer, look elsewhere)
    Lyman Check Weight Set $36 (to calibrate your scale at the weights you are using for that day, or to build your own adjustment chart, because no scale is dead-on across the range)
    Loading Block, Universal (1 or 2) for load testing $8
    Hornady Cam-Lock Bullet Puller $20 - Your apartment neighbors will call the cops if you wack a hammer style puller all night long, your girlfriend will leave you
    Hornady bullet puller collets $8 each caliber, for above
    Speer Manual 14 $33
    Lyman Manual $20 (yes, you need/want both, will make you smart/smarter)
    Ammo Boxes - caliber boxes only for field testing loads
    Utility Boxes for ammo - unslotted, for your bulk ammo, unless you enjoy putting each cartridge in a hole for no reason
    Utility Boxes - various sizes for small reloading parts/tools

    I would wait on the case prep tools until you actually start loading 223, but get the press kit in rifle for the double disk kit which allows you to fine tune your pistol loads by dividing your cavity sizes in half. You'll understand once you read the instructions on the doubling kit.
    Also check out the Lee triangular reloading stand for apartment reloaders on the Lee Precision site. Quick change plate system means you can yank the press, throw it in the closet for storage. Or, you can at least just move the stand/press into the corner when you are not loading and not lose the desk space. It also means you have a portable reloading system to take to the field to develop loads. Get a free scrap of carpet from a carpet shop to use as a mat because stepped-on gunpowder will stain the carpet
    Always wear safety glasses
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2011
  7. stumpjumper

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    An adjustable powder disk, "spacer" for the powder dispenser for each caliber die plate.
     
  8. GMAN12

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    Maybe a couple of extra turrets and risers for the powder dispenser.
     
  9. IndyGunFreak

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    For some reason, I always worry when people talk about buying a LCT kit, they are talking about that horrid Lee kit... lol.

    Listen to everyone, get the Kempf kit. To often I think they read the sticky and say "Lee Turret it".. go to Midway, and think they are getting the Lee Classic Turret.

    I would definitely start w/ Pistol.

    IGF
     
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  10. Chiplexic

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    Before you order check out this site that someone pointed out to me. I have no affiliation with them. I'm in the same position as you. Just starting to consider what and where to get some equipment.

    *Lee 4 hole Classic Turret press auto-index-
    Kempf- $104.95
    Natchezss- $87.45.
    *Lee Pro auto-disk powder measure-
    Kemptf-$37.95
    Natchezss-$32.49
    *Lee lg and sm primer feeder-
    Kemptf-$23.95
    Nachezss-$18.99
    *Lee auto-disk riser-
    Kemptf- $7.95
    Natchezss-$6.49
    *Lyman #49 Manual
    Kemptf-$24.95
    Natchezss-$16.79 http://www.natchezss.com/product.cf...17048&prodTitle=Lyman 48th Reloading Handbook
    http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentId=productSearch&searchItem=lee classic turret
     
  11. IndyGunFreak

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    After you add dies, the cost comparison between what you "assemble" at Natchezss, and what you get in the kit at Kempf... is negligible.

    The Kempf kit also comes with ammo boxes, if thats important to someone.
     
  12. Boxerglocker

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    Not to meantion Natchezz is great a bending you over on the shipping :whistling:

    I've been through this several times, Kempfs kit is the best deal and they will not ship unless complete. Good luck with Natchezz on that one.

    Once again I would advice start with one caliber, .45 work at it before moving on to anything else.
     
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  13. IndyGunFreak

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    I was gonna mention Natchezss shipping prices, but I figured if someone actually went with them, they'd notice it before placing the order. You really don't realize how bad it is, till its staring you in the face. :)
     
  14. RustyFN

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    First I think the classic turret is a great press for people not looking for thousands of rounds per month. This would be my suggestion. I have been loading 223 on mine for a few years with the double disk kit. I recently bought a Lee perfect powder measure with an adapter that will let me mount it to the rifle charging die. I am much happier with this set up over the double disk kit. I still use the single disk's for loading pistol. This is the adapter, you want to buy the pistol adapter.

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    Here is the link, http://www.gun-guides.com/The-Perfect-Handgun-Adapter-for-LEE-Perfect-Powder-Measures_p_41.html
     
  15. sellersm

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    +1 on the gun-guide perfect adapter!

    I have purchased a lot of things from Natchez, however, you do need to compare the TOTAL price carefully (once shipping is factored in)!

    I'd go with the Kempf kit and be done with it.....
     
  16. cowboy1964

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    Starting with 45 ACP is good. Doesn't get much easier than that. I haven't loaded rifle yet and probably won't, just don't shoot enough of it to justify it.

    +1 for Kempf's. Fast and good prices. Get the blue tumbler from them. It's much quieter than I thought a tumbler would be.
     
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  17. Chiplexic

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    Well...sort of close in price.

    Kempfgunshop.com with Auto disk powder Up Grade to "Pro"

    Pistol Caliber Kits Include:
    Lee Classic Turret Press
    Lee Deluxe 4-Die Set for the pistol caliber of your choice.
    Lee Auto Disk Powder Measure
    Lee Safety Prime System (Large AND Small)
    Lee Auto Disk Riser (Required for the Safety Prime System)
    Six MTM 50 round Plastic Ammo Boxes
    ----------------------$211.95 +shipping $19.72= $231.67


    Exact same items(except boxes) @ Natchez -$180.45
    Shipping $18.32 + insurance $1.50 = $200.27

    But, if Natchez ships the order at 2 seperate times, that will take a bite out of some of the savings .
     
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  18. PsychoKnight

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    The Perfect measure is nice to have for 223 and any kind of rifle loading, but only as an extra powder measure, not in lieu of the AutoMeasure if he is starting with auto pistol calibers and won't be working with 223 for a while. There's enough to do with your hands when using a turrent.
     
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  19. PsychoKnight

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    I don't think they're into Lee stuff as much as Kempf. When I was a Richard Lee Follower, most of my orders from Natchez had the wrong item shipped to me, and it was a pain to wait for the return and reship. Then they always charge me shipping again for their mistake, after promising not to, but it gets added on at ship-time and I have to have that corrected. Its just sloppy customer service. Little things add up.
     
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