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Smith Wesson Governor

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Samned2003, Mar 20, 2012.

  1. Samned2003

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    Every time I go by my local gun shop recently, they always seem to have something unusual. This trip they had a Brand New Smith Wesson Governor, it is only the second one that I have seen. After looking at it for a few minutes, I bought it. It does seem to be better built revolver than the Judge, but is was about $100.00 more expensive. I have been reading a lot on the internet about the various loads, and for a self defense situation it appears that the 45 Long Colt is the best round.

    Anyway this pistol may be a "Fad", but for some reason I like the pistol.

    I hope to get it out this weekend and try it out.

    Has anyone else had any experience with the Governor?
     
  2. Ruggles

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    I like the concept and I would prefer the S&W over the Taurus due to it's ability to fire ACP as well a LC and .410s :)

    That being said the haters of the concept are gonna come out pretty soon, some just hate the concept of the .410/.45LC handgun.
     

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  3. camelotkid

    camelotkid non-believer

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    I like them a whole lot better than anything taurus. The fact that it shoots 45acp is really nice. Nothing I would EDC but a fun plinking gun and a good hiking gun.
     
  4. TSAX

    TSAX USAF Vet

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    I am awaiting the Ruger Mayor before I decide between the 3 :supergrin:






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  5. nathanours

    nathanours Texan

    I can't speak for the governor, but my dad has a Judge. I've shot it quite a bit, but I'll give you a word of caution on the shot shell loads.

    We had some of the special pdx-1 loads for these guns (my dad also has the longer barrel version) with the 3 discs in them. We shot it at a 3 in thick phone book from 7 yards away, and only 1 of the 3 discs even hit it on average. None of the discs went through the book even. I'd seriously doubt its ability to penetrate through a thick jacket, and the chance of hitting something beyond your desired target is extremely high.

    The gun does pretty decently with the 45 long loads however.

    I don't imagine that the governor would have much different ballistics than the judge. This is just my personal experience so take what you will from it. I strongly suggest you try the shot loads for accuracy and penetration before you use them for defense.
     
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  6. DreamWeaver88

    DreamWeaver88 ...............

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    I like mine. I know it's not for everyone, and people debate the effectiveness of .410 out of such a short barrel. I really don't care. You can't tell me someone is going to take a round of .410 PDX-1 at a short distance, then ask for another.

    It really baffles me how some people (by what they say about it) almost seem insulted that such guns exist.
     
  7. nathanours

    nathanours Texan

    If you're shooting at a threat more than 7 yards away in my experience, you'll most likely only land one of the discs on target, and in the test I did, the discs only made it about an inch deep. 9mm, 38 sp, and the 45 LC passed through it with ease... I'm just saying try it out first. And I completely agree, I doubt you'd be able to find anyone who'll want to be shot with one once, much less twice.

    I've also got no problem with the gun existing. It has been a very fun range toy. My dad loves seeing what the smaller bb size shot shells do to things.

    Here's a youtube video showing the pdx rounds. They make it barely over 1 in. into a phone book.

    Skip ahead to right at around 5 mins. These guys don't really understand physics, but if you just watch the clip without listening to them talk it's good info.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=katLavQJ7CY"]Taurus Judge Shotshell tests - PDX1 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  8. WoodenPlank

    WoodenPlank Who?

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    .410 out of a handgun is going to suck against anything bigger and more menacing than a small dog. Stick to .45 Colt or .45ACP with the Governor. Personally, I'd go with .45ACP and spare moon clips for reloads, just because it'll be faster to reload if needed.
     
  9. DreamWeaver88

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    Yeah, I know it's not going to be a single shot stopper by any means.

    I have the ammo staggered in my Governor. I figure .410, 45LC, .410, 45LC with a couple of 45ACP chasers should do the trick.

    DW
     
  10. Sbh87

    Sbh87 Handgunner

    The governor is something I want to try. I don't think I would own one ever but the concept of being able to shoot three different calibers in one gun us pretty cool. If I lived in an area with a lot of snakes I suppose it could b a good snake gun.


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  11. Glockster17

    Glockster17 Millennium Member

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    What about as a 'trail' gun? Loaded with one .410 round for snakes and other unfriendly critters and then 5 rounds of .45LC for something bigger/meaner lurking around. The .45 acp would be cheaper to pratice with and could be used for home defense. Or a 'car gun' that is pretty versatile. I don't own one of these handguns, but held one at the LGS this weekend and it got me thinking. Thoughts? --Rob
     
  12. Samned2003

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    Took the governor out to shoot it today. The first shell was a #6 birdshot load. At about 20 feet the pellets spread was about 2 feet in diameter . This round would be good for small game, and I would not even consider using it for self defense.

    The second round I shot was the Winchester PDX1 .410 load at 20 feet. This round placed all three discs about 3 to 4 inches apart. There were about 6 or 7 BB shot on the 8 1/2 x 11 piece of paper. This round performed well, and patterned well.

    The next round was 230 grain FMJ .45 acp. This round performed well placing three rounds in a 3 inch group at 20 feet.

    The next round was Hornady 225 grain Lever Evolution 45 Long Colt. This round was a little more accurate that the .45 cap, putting 3 rounds in about a 2 1/2 inch group at 20 feet.

    I just had a short while to shoot this pistol, and I am sure it is more accurate , but for the first range trip it exceeded my expectations.

    The biggest surprise of the day was the stiff recoil of the .410 Winchester PDX load. It was by far the hottest of the loads I fired.

    Anyway I think this Governor is a keeper.
     
  13. Ruggles

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    Glad it worked well for you, I think they are versatile guns.
     
  14. powder86

    powder86 SHOOT SAFE!

    i definitely heard that the governor is much better than the judge.
     
  15. bac1023

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    I wouldn't doubt that.
     
  16. NeverMore1701

    NeverMore1701 Fear no Evil Platinum Member

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    From yesterday's thread:

    And as bac pointed out, also ugly.
     
  17. Samned2003

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    There are plenty of ugly pistols out there. There are also several pistols out there that I feel are useless. The governor is a neat pistol and only time will tell if I keep it or not, but right now I am happy with my purchase.
     
  18. stolivar

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    Use Federal 000 loads. better penetration and grouping.



    steve
     
  19. WoodenPlank

    WoodenPlank Who?

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    Any .410 load out of a handgun barrel isn't exactly going to be terribly impressive for personal defense, unless you need it for snakes or small animals. Load .45ACP or .45 Colt JHP of a proven type, and carry on.
     
  20. Ruggles

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    Any real world data on the .410 from a handgun using the newer loads in a self defense situation? Seems like alot of folks think they are incredibly ineffective, not sure what that is based on.