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Smith & Wesson 27-2 .44 Mag.

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by CarryTexas, Jul 27, 2012.

  1. CarryTexas

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    Has anyone heard of a S&W M27 in .44 MAG?

    I recently picked up this gun thinking that the seller had made a mistake and misread M29. However, he was right it is a 27-2...

    Does anyone know anything about this gun? I mainly bought it as a shooter so I am not too concerned about it, but I would like the know what about it.
     
  2. 427

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    I think the Model 27 is a .357 mag.
     


  3. CarryTexas

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    This one is a .44. That is why I am confused.
     
  4. Can you post a pic? The 27 has always been a .357 with the premium bluing. The model 28 is the same thing with a more satin finish. The 28 used to be common for the highway patrol. They are heavy duty 357's.
     
  5. 427

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    Can you post picts? Maybe it's a factory mis-mark.
     
  6. It's either a factory mis-mark (not unheard of) or someone converted it to 44 magnum somewhere along the line.
     
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  7. countrygun

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    Before S&W reintroduced the Mod 24, it was not uncommon for folks to convert a 27 or 28 to .44 Special. Being an "N" frame it was possible, although highly unadviseable to run a magnum reamer in the chambers.

    Some of the SAFE .44 special versions used either NOS mod 24 barrels or the untapered mod 29 barrels. It was easy to rechamber the original .357 cylinder for .44 special.

    IIRC Bob Sconce of MMC and MagnaPort did a lot of these
     
  8. bac1023

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  9. Bruce M

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    As suggested it might be a conversion or it might be a mismarked gun. If it was done in the early 70's I would guess it is a conversion. After the movie Dirty Harry .44 magnums were supposedly difficult to come by. I'll bet a letter from Smith and Wesson might indicate for certain.
     
  10. bac1023

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    I think its a shame, actually. The original 27-2s are certainly more valuable than 29-2s.

    The 27 was Smith's flagship revolver.
     
  11. There were no model 27s chambered from the factory for 44 magnum. There were also no such mismarked 29s. You apparantly have something somebody converted.

    But, what makes you think it's for 44 mag? For a while it was trendy to convert models 28s to 44 special, but the assumption was that a 357 just wouldn't leave enough metal to endure 44 mag loads.

    If it was converted to fire magnum loads, I would not shoot it unless and until a competent gunsmith checked it out.

    Even then, I would only shoot reduced (read, 44 special) loads.
     
  12. countrygun

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    If it had been converted to MAGNUM chambering I don't think a gunsmith could find the dangers that might be waiting, unless he could magnaflux.
     
  13. bac1023

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    There's no way I'd shoot it, that's for sure.
     
  14. CarryTexas

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    I have asked the seller for a refund due to the fact it is a modified gun.

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  15. countrygun

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    Yup, that is a 29 barrel on a 27 frame. See the cutting above the model number in the crane? Even on the bottom of the forcing cone to get the 29 cylinder in there. I will bet they may have used a 29 crane. That looks like nickle on my monitor
     
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  16. CarryTexas

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    Yes, it is a nickel finish. From pictures I thought I was buying a nickel M29. Never expected this...

    I compared the cylinder with my M29-2 using a digital caliper and they're the same size...
     
  17. true believer

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    what did the seller say about a refund?
    :whistling:
     
  18. CarryTexas

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    Nothing yet....

    We'll see hopefully he will be a standup guy and do the right thing.