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Situational awareness/Home defense

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by Snapper2, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. Snapper2

    Snapper2

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    At the risk of sounding paranoid I've got a few questions.Doorbell rings while I'm handloading ammo:supergrin:. Wife and daughter are watching a movie in living room. I answer door (without ccw) and step outside to talk to a man and woman that say they work for kirby and want to give my house a free cleaning. While I'm in the process of sending them on their way my wife calls me back in the house to let me know that according to facebook people are scoping out houses in my neighborhood.:shocked: So I grab my ccw and go back out and tell them NOT INTERESTED.:steamed: This most likely is just a false alarm not worthy of calling police IMO, but I did go back out and watch them walk door to door down the street.So basically all I did was get their license number from their truck.Questions that I have is how are you supposed to handle door to door salesmen?
     
  2. FatPants

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    I don't answer the door for anyone I don't know.

    Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2
     


  3. Snapper2

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    Not a bad answer, but I usually want to know why someone is in my yard or knocking on my door.
     
  4. brob2425

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    Strangers offering to clean your house for free is a red flag right there. Jot down their plates and a good description of them and their vehicle in case you need it.
     
  5. Sharky7

    Sharky7 Boomshakalaka

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    Get a no solicitor sign and don't answer for them. Or open the door with a hotel or chain lock telling them you are not interested.

    Find out if your city has an ordinance against soliciting door to door. Many cities/towns have ordinances that require their solicitors to register or get a permit with the city. Call the police if you think they are soliciting illegally or are suspicious in anyway.

    Most of your residential burglaries actually occur during the day. Many people get caught up in their fantasies or watching too many movies and think someone is going to break in in the middle of the night - that's pretty rare. Most residential burglaries happen during the week during the day when everyone is away at work.

    It's not uncommon for residential burglary crews to knock on the front and back doors or ring the doorbell first to make sure no one is home. I've investigated quite a few who pass out fake flyers or just claim to have run out of gas if someone actually answers the door. Most of them are hoping when they see you haven't got your mail, no noise from inside, and your newspaper is still on the driveway, and you don't answer the door - they hope you aren't home.
     
  6. Jon_R

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    I tell them no thanks but have a nice day. I look out the window at them before I answer no peep hole and almost always have my CW on me. Never felt there was any problem that required anything different.
     
  7. Sharky7

    Sharky7 Boomshakalaka

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    Be careful about stepping too far outside your home with them. Google gypsy scams and you will find out quite a bit of information.

    I've seen quite a few gypsy scams where one guy will lure you outside to look at your roof, garage, yard, etc while 2 or 3 guys go inside your home to steal.

    I am never a fan of people coming to my door trying to sell me crap. If I really needed your service, I will find you.

    Anyone trying to sell magazine subscriptions door to door is going to be a dirt bag, so watch out for them.....Lots and lots of dirt bag magazine subscription groups go from city to city all over the USA. They are always run by skells and their "employees" are the types who can't even get a job in fast food. 4 or 5 stay in a hotel room in a city for the week and they work on commission only. They will claim to be college students working toward a trip or goal, but most are in their late 20's with extensive criminal records. If you pay in cash, don't expect to get your magazines. If people invite them into their homes, valuables go missing all the time.
     
  8. Snapper2

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    Yes, I'm second guessing myself for not getting ID from them instead of just sending them on their way.I did get the plate numbers.
     
  9. Redheadhunter21

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    If I'm home alone, I stay inside door opening if others are home I will go outside and close door. I'm pretty good about knowing who is supposed to be at the door vs who is not. If they don't look right I'll just let them wait until they leave. I'm home during the day most of the time so Im at more risk than most.

    Oh yea almost forgot I always put the tag number in my phone if they have a vehicle, let it sit for a week before deleting
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2012
  10. Snapper2

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    All of this is good to know.Thanks. I do need a chainlock and a peephole too. If I'm armed(ccw) I usually meet them on the porch.
     
  11. Snapper2

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    Yes but then they go next door. If they are up to something they need to know theyre being watched.
     
  12. Snapper2

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    good points. But if they dont look right maybe racking a pump action shotgun from the inside and then set it down and answer....... may I help you?:supergrin: This is probably what I'm doing wrong....I always answer.:dunno:
     
  13. H&K 4 LIFE

    H&K 4 LIFE Leonum A Ignis

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    If you felt it was worth arming yourself over, it was probably also at least worth reporting.

    If you think it's suspicious activity then go with your gut. Relay any relevant information to the police and let them handle it. They may even subsequently increase the frequency of random patrols in your area.

    Who knows, it could be nothing, or you could actually prevent someone else's house from being broken into.
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2012
  14. ranger1968

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    Get a fence, and a gate;

    you won't have that problem ever again.
     
  15. I think of door knockers all the time cause if I'm not expecting you I don't answer the door. if I do answer I have a gun in hand behind my back and prepared to be rushed.
     
  16. Snapper2

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    The only reason I wasnt armed at the time is that I had my barrel out of my gun checking the hand loads I was making. But I guess your right on reporting it. Gut call. I decided not to. The facebook news/rumors are faster than the news. If you've got teens you stay informed.:rofl:That said, I did inform the neighbors.
     
  17. Snapper2

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    wow, I cant help but think that maybe the door knockers need to rethink their line of work.:rofl:
     
  18. Snapper2

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    And maybe a couple of bull mastiffs.:supergrin: Cool dogs.
    I'm still not use to this neighborhood living even after 7 years.
     
  19. unit1069

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    Be careful; a current trend in home invasion robberies is to have a female ring the doorbell and when the unsuspecting residents answer (thinking a female isn't a threat) the male perps bust through suddenly and overwhelm the homeowners.

    Always keep a locked door between you and anyone you don't know until you're sure nobody's lurking out of immediate sight. And keep all doors locked, night and day.
     
  20. Snapper2

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    Thanks for the warnings. Things I want to look into now are a peep hole and chain lock.