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Simple Observation about 2012 Election

Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by ked, Feb 4, 2013.

  1. ked


    Feb 12, 2007
    If Romney had won, he would not have fixed anything. He is a RINO, and we all know that. We would have had to listen to the Democrats talk about how we should have re-elected Obama, And how he would have fixed this mess. This, i believe would have led to an almost certain Democrat win in 2016.

    With Obamas win, he is going to drive the USA into the ground. Furthermore, the press will not turn against him. They will not admit their mistake. Ever!

    But, just like a drug addict or alcoholic has to hit bottom before they turn around and begin a recovery, I believe this country will not return to solid principles unless we hit bottom. It's sad, but I don't believe there is any other way. The problem is that sometimes the addict dies. And we also know, that countries also drastically change directions.

    Bottom line: I've come to the conclusion that an Obama win may be better in the long run that a Romney win. If we survive, that is.

  2. akroguy


    Dec 26, 2010
    I understand your position and tend to agree. As the next four years tick by, it will become increasingly absurd for obummer to keep blaming the last some point, even the most ardent kool aid drinkers are going to wonder WTF is going on and just MAYBE they need to unf u k themselves and make a different choice in 2016.

  3. cowboy1964


    Sep 4, 2009
    I agree somewhat EXCEPT if Obama gets to replace one moderate or conservative Supreme with a liberal over the next four years it is going to be a disaster that may take decades to undo.
  4. pugman


    May 16, 2003
    The United States will survive - by this I mean the very dirt and concrete we walk on daily. As for the actual states, the 1st Constitution, etc who knows - we will let the civil war/breakup of the country decide this.

    Republicans and Democrats play checkers every election to see who gets to screw over the country for the next four years. If one side wins twice in a row, the next time they need to play blindfolded. This party has hookers and blow and you and I pay for it through Federal "Discretionary" Spending.

    While this seems ludicrous it makes about as much as sense as the Republican party putting Romney up against Obama. Obama vs Obama-lite isn't going to motivate or mobilize conservative voters. However, I wonder how many of those folks are left? Republicans have marginalized Hispanics, Gays, Women, Democrats, Blacks, the elderly, etc. Before you know it, the Republican party will be able to hold their national convention at the local Motel 6 with room to spare.

    All this is moot. The dollar will fail before then - then the mud slinging, name calling, finger pointing will be more entertaining than the Super Bowl Commericals.
  5. Skyhook


    Nov 4, 2002
    Decades? Centuries to never, I should think.

    (Funny, I had not taken you for an optimist before this.)

  6. JBnTX

    JBnTX Bible Thumper

    Aug 28, 2008
    Fort Worth Texas

    There's NO way in hell Obama is the better choice.

    You sound like a liberal Obama supporter doing damage control for him and trying to justify his anti-American agenda.

    People like you didn't even give Romney a chance, so how can you spout that crap about him not changing anything?

  7. Skyhook


    Nov 4, 2002

    Anti-American just about sums up the entire Obama 'leadership'.

    I cannot think of one move he has made/authored/backed which has benefited us in any way whatever.
    Actually, I cannot think of anything Obama has done that clearly was intended to strengthen us or unite us- not ONE.

    What did I miss?:whistling:
  8. Cavalry Doc

    Cavalry Doc MAJ (USA Ret.)

    Feb 22, 2005
    Republic of Texas
    When the come for your guns, tell yourself Romney would have pushed for the same gun control in his first term as Barry did in his second "more flexible" term. As it is, the military will be weaker, much more wealth is going to be redistributed, the welfare and food stamp rolls are going to grow, all sources of power from fossil fuel, and fossil fuel prices will "necessarily skyrocket".......... But, that's the way it is. Nothing to do but get ready for it.

    If you think we will reach bottom in 4 years, then the bottom is a lot lower than you think it is.
  9. SJ 40

    SJ 40

    Jan 17, 2011
    Pray for our SC justices and in turn the US. SJ 40
  10. aircarver

    aircarver Ride Continues Silver Member

    We are in deep trouble if we are going to wait for the morons who voted for Maobama to ever 'figure it out' ... :frown:

  11. jeanderson

    jeanderson Toga!... Toga! Platinum Member

    Apr 11, 2012
    You are absolutely correct in saying the press will not turn against him. So why are you concluding that Obama's win in 2012 will ultimately be better for the country?

    The press will blame Bush, or the "most severe recession since the depression of the 30's", or those obstructionists Republicans that would dare oppose the trillions in additional "stimulus" spending Obama wants to do. When the economy is really in the toilet in 2016 the press will be in full campaign mode for Hillary and spinning all of the bad news into "it's not Obama's fault".

    No, an Obama win in 2012 is bad for the country. Period. Regardless of what the lamestream media says, I know very well the root cause and know full well that they will never admit to it. Not in 2016, not ever.
  12. engineer151515


    Nov 3, 2003
    Use whatever rationalization you need to justify Obama's re-election.

    Fact is, it is a $10 Trillion dollar debt national spendthrift disaster.

    Romney at least recognized the government spending and growth needed to be curtailed.
  13. series1811

    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

    There is certainly some validity to that point. It's similiar to a parent not enabling a dependent adult child any longer, and letting them suffer the consequences of their actions, however severe, in order to make them wake up to their lack of, and need to take on, personal responsiblity.

    But, the occassional unintended result of that process can be death, and with Obama, we are running that same risk for the country.

    Time will tell.
  14. Kablam


    Jan 12, 2005
    His re-election is a disaster. He can do so much damage over the next 4 years that we may never recover. The collapse of the system that some want accelerated by Obama's victory could end very badly. History would tell us that less, not more, liberty will be the result.
  15. ked


    Feb 12, 2007
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2013
  16. By this failed logic we should elect Biden if we haven't crashed enough in 2016.

    No, you never cut off your nose to spite your face.
  17. ked


    Feb 12, 2007
    i understand the unintended consequence may be death. and this certainly wouldn't be my choice, but sometimes, we don't get to walk the path we want.

    time will tell. freedom must be fought for from time to time. it may just be time again.

  18. ked


    Feb 12, 2007
    not my logic. i voted for Romney. and campaigned for him! i didn't write the script, i just have to be in the play. and if Biden or Hillary gets elected in 2016, it just shows that we haven't had enough pain yet. often, you got to hit bottom before you straighten up. if you are still alive, that is!

  19. ked


    Feb 12, 2007
    i agree . i certainly didn't want the accelerated collapse, and i agree that this could end very badly. a loss of Liberty is what i fear.

  20. JBnTX

    JBnTX Bible Thumper

    Aug 28, 2008
    Fort Worth Texas
    You did say Obama was the better choice.
    Re-read your original post.

    This country does not "need" to crash.
    You sound like we all need to be taught a lesson.

    Just because things aren't going the way you think they should doesn't mean the country is doomed and needs to be punished.

    Are you an American?

    Last edited: Feb 5, 2013