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shtf and bugs

Discussion in 'Survival/Preparedness Forum' started by bdcochran, Feb 1, 2012.

  1. bdcochran


    Sep 23, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Someone once observed that civilization is about 5 meals from disintegrating. I think that if a serious shtf happens, you might a only a few days to a few weeks from dealing with bugs.

    When shtf, the mosquito control district, the regular garbage pickup, and the street cleaners might not be operating. The seasonal infestation of no-see-ims at the range on Saturday will be with you 24/7.

    To this end, I picked up some mosquito head nettings (and put one in the car), spray can insecticides, and several large containers of insecticide. I also made sure that I carry a couple of cans of insecticide in the car. There are also some containers of weed chemicals. Other approaches include putting dust upon yourself and standing around a smokey fire to hide your scent.:faint:
  2. I take mosquitoes very seriously. They can be maddening around here. If SHTF I'd hope to have use of my large screen patio as it would be a luxury in the hot, humid months with its insulated, shaded roof, elevated position, SCREEN and water features. In addition to the screen clothing (jacket, head and face covering) and repellent I also stock spare screen material for window / patio repairs or if the need arises to construct a small enclosure.

  3. Dexters


    May 3, 2004
    I think you hit upon a subject people don't think about the cycle of plagues:

    Wave 1
    Stage 1
    Death of humans from lack of medication, accidents, killing, poor sanitation etc.
    - Increase in insects
    - Increase in rats

    Stage 2
    - Increase in disease carried by them killing humans
    - Dogs packs form and roam around attacking humans
    - Cats kill birds increasing the insect population

    Stage 3
    - Dog packs and insects attack wild and farm animals
    - Rats and insects not controlled by insecticides consume crops and other vegetation.

    Stage 4
    - Dog and rat population begins to die due to lack of easy food

    Wave 2
    - Human deaths increase due to less crop production and disease

    Repeat Stages 1 -4

    Wave 3 and beyond - continue until balance of food production and human population is in balance - expect shorter life expectancy.

    So you have to prepare for a huge number of insects - flying and crawling, rats and dog packs.
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2012
  4. kirgi08

    kirgi08 Watcher. Silver Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Acme proving grounds.
    The above would depend on ones A/O,PB is in Florida.The mosquito is the state bird.We live in WNC so skeeters are hit or miss,it depends on standing water.We do have preps against them,those blood suckers spread diseases like a politician spreads lies.'08.
  5. Akita

    Akita gone

    Jul 22, 2002
    Nets, Deet, chigger-rid, lindane, chlordane and DDT (if you can get them), boric 'acid', bT, and all the other basic garden/lawn chems are important to stockpile despite what the greenies tell you. When basic SURVIVAL is at stake, the enviroweenies can go suck a bug.
  6. Kieller


    May 18, 2007
    Kansas City
    Ha, indeed it is. :rofl:

    I did some work down in WPB a few years back and they got pretty thick sometimes.

    Around here insects are not near as bad but we do have a couple times a year that they can get thick. I keep some bug repellent around but not in large quantities. I would love a screened in porch though...

    I guess they don't bug me a ton during the warm months because I am usually smoking/bbqing and they generally don't like the smoke.
  7. Jake514


    Feb 3, 2007
    You do bring up an excellent point - for humans and maybe also animals. I would also add I have seen grasshoppers so thick they could actually clog machinery air intakes, etc. The grasshoppers were attracted by light at night and in the morning people would need to sweep bushels of dead ones up from in front of their retail storefronts, and they really stink! (The numerical quanitities seem to run in cycles(?).) I am thinking screen to fabricate cleanable devices to keep bugs out of generators, etc. could be very handy.
  8. smokeross

    smokeross GTDS Member #49

    May 15, 2011
    Head net, check. More than 5 meals, check. Enough .22 ammo to shoot Alaskan bugs out of the sky for the cook pot, check.
  9. Akita

    Akita gone

    Jul 22, 2002
    No lie that.

    I was up there once and you could check the effectiveness of your DEET by the skeeters. When you put on the 100% stuff, the cloud would be approx 2' from your head. As the hours worre on, the boundary would get closer and closer to your face until they were almost landing.
    what I learned is DEET WORKS.
  10. I never thought about mosquitoes in Alaska.

    Man I hate those things. Working on something outside at dusk while breathing mosquitoes into your nose / mouth is a quite the joke. I know of more than one back-water fisherman who became stranded overnight (lost / boat broken down) who braved the demon filled water all night just to escape the skeeto wrath....and even then would only lift their mouth / nose out of the water.
  11. dissthis

    dissthis Gun Fan

    Aug 24, 2005
    Marietta, GA
    How about lice post SHTF? We just went through it with my kids. Not too bad right now with special shampoos, washer and dryer to wash bed linen (several times). Even a place to take the girl child that picks the nits for you (for a fee). But if there is no power = no washer/dryer, business are closed = no nit pickers.

    How would one deal with lice then? Granted contact with others would be limited. But then again.....
  12. Dexters


    May 3, 2004
    You will shave your head and genital area in a SHTF situation.

    But you are correct - we forgot lice and bed bugs.
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2012

  13. ..............and crabs!:tongueout:
  14. Cali-Glock

    Cali-Glock Mountain Man

    Feb 11, 2002
    California Sierra Mnts

    In the third world, the majority of harvested food is destroyed by insects and rodents.

    Insect borne disease is a major problem in the third world, and even in tropical portions of the US.

    Vector borne diseases will be a major issue.
  15. Javelin

    Javelin Got Glock? Silver Member

    Feb 9, 2008
    N. Dallas
    My suggestion would be to find a good recipe and eat them. There will be lots of proteins flying around in the air post SHTF.
  16. Dexters


    May 3, 2004
    I think many that think they will go back to farming during SHTF haven't planned for wastage from, insects, rodents, harvesting and spoilage.
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2012
  17. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

    Instead of insecticide... I got a few bottles of Aqua Net hairspray and a lot of lighters!

    Instant roast skeeter for the eatin!
  18. racerford


    Apr 22, 2003
    DFW area
    I hope you meant cans of insect repellent for your car and not insecticide. If you have a leak of can of insect repellent in the closed space of your car, it may smell but you will likely survive. If you have significant leak of an insecticide, it could kill you or cause you to lapse into unconsciousness, or just generally be bad for your health. Most insecticides are strong poisions.

  19. Steff1


    May 13, 2008
    We all know the effectiveness of Deet, but what are some natural alternatives for insect repellant that people have used ?
  20. eracer

    eracer Where's my EBT?

    Apr 5, 2011
    Tampa, FL
    I was poisoned once by some organo-phosphate residue on bulk tea leaves I bought from a small vendor. It was not fun. Luckily it was a small enough amount that the symptoms cleared up after about an hour.

    Think about the amount of the stuff I ingested by brewing a small amount of tea. Then consider how much a can of insecticide holds.