I see why they call them shredders! Of course I new they were going to be aggressive before ordered them my NN. I shot 50 rnds thru my new No Name and my support hand palm is a little tender now. I like them but I think I'll be putting in a order for another set of grips that are a little more aggessive than standard but not as much as these? Thinking VZ or alumnigrips. Any suggestions?