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Should I spring for the 590a1?

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by r3dot, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. r3dot

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    Looking for the standard HD/zombie gun. I love the 870, but really not liking their tactical offerings, plus the safety location isn't my preference.

    My main reasoning for wanting the a1 is simply due to the 9 round capacity, but, is it worth the extra from the 500 tactical?

    What I really want is the new Kel Tec KSG, but I know I won't be getting my hands on one anytime soon. :D
     
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  2. ArmoryDoc

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    The 590a1 is a nice gun but I prefer the 870's. I can always mod the 870 to my liking.
     


  3. i have the A1 and i love it. for me, the mossberg safety and slide release are in the perfect location. if you have enough why not go for the A1? even though a normal 500 would do all of us just fine, its nice to know i have a tough as nails shotgun.
     
  4. precisioncg

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    I have the 590a1 with the ghost ring sights with the 20" barrel. Just keep in mind with the milspec heavy barrel its heavier than the 870. I also needed to switch out the factory stock for the 12" Hogue. Before I did it was uncomfortable for me to shoulder and I'm 6'. Now that I did that I'm loving it. Patterns really nice out of the box. I'm still toying with getting it Vang Comp'd, but thats just me. If you decide to buy it you won't be sorry.
     
  5. r3dot

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    What can you do to the 870 that you couldn't with the a1?
     
  6. Big Bird

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    If you buy a 590A1 you can buy it exactly the way you want it and unlike the 870 you won't have to go around swapping out inferior factory mag extensions or safety buttons.

    The 870 is a great shotgun but about the only thing you need to do to a factory 590A1 is replace the magazine spring for a Wolff extra power mag spring.
     
  7. ArmoryDoc

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    Oh, not much I s'ppose. I just prefer the 870.
     
  8. r3dot

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    Thanks for the input. I'm keeping an eye out for an a1 then. If I have to, I'll buy new.
     
  9. ArmoryDoc

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    The a1's are good guns. I can't say anything bad about 'em. You should enjoy it. :)
     
  10. officerjohnson

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    The 590a1 is better than the 870 Express.

    The 870 Police is as good as the 590a1. The Express model is not made out of the same quality parrts, and doesnt have the same tough finish and higher standard as the Police, the Police is much better than the Express model.

    It should be between the 870 Police and the 590a1, these are the two best pump combat shotguns on the market.

    Also, the 18.5 inch barrels are much nicer that the 20 inch version, it really does make a difference.
     
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  11. Maine1

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    the 870 also does not allow a shell that is jarred from the mag to drop free (all shotguns will do this in rough handling). The 590 will. this is one reason the military likes it. The 870 get shut downuntil the problem is solved.
     
  12. r3dot

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    What's the difference between the 590 and 590a1? I'm seeing some nice deals on the 590.
     
  13. The A1 has a metal trigger guard, metal safety, and a thicker barrel.
     
  14. Big Bird

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    The 590A1 can be purchased with 18.5 or 20" barrels. I've got HD shotguns with 14", 18.5" and 20" barrels and there really not a nickles worth of difference between the 18.5" and 20" guns IMO... A 20" gun buys you an extra shell in the magazine.

    I think the Mossberg 500 series shotguns have several real advantages over the 870 design, First is the safety is much more intuitive than a trigger guard safety. Second is the bolt/slide release is in a much easier to use position. Thirdly, the gun has dual extractors and an ejector that can be replaced with a screwdriver. (The 870's ejector is riveted into the side of the receiver and much harder to replace--often requiring return to the factory).
    The 500 series guns are a tad harder to detail strip than an 870 but not significantly so and this really has no practical utility. If you can learn to take apart an 870 a Mossberg isn't much harder. The Mossberg triggerguard only has one oin that need to come out while the 870 has two.
    IMO the weakness of the Mossberg system is the magazine spring. Factory springs somehow come too weak. A problem that is easily corrected for $10 with a Wolf extra power replacement spring. But if you buy a 20" 590A1 the magazine tube is a solid one piece assembly you don't need to worry about aftermarket parts or barrel clamps. And as I said, a 20" 590A1 has the best magazine capacity of any tactical shotgun on the market.
     
  15. ScrappyDoo

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    The M590A1 is to me, one of the absolute best looking, toughest as nails, and best working weapons on the planet- I will absolutely own one someday.
     
  16. officerjohnson

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    I think the Mossberg 590a1 is the best choice of you prefer to have a traditional stock. If you prefer pistol grip stocks then the Remington 870 makes more sense. A Mossberg 590 safety is very hard to use with a pistol grip stock. They are both reliable and time tested weapons, both share the top spot for best defense pump action shotgun. I dont think you can say one is better than the other, they are both equal, some will prefer the feel and controls over the other, at least we have the difficult choice of choosing from one of these two excellent weapon sytems. I am only speaking about the 870 police vs. the Mossberg 590a1. The remington 870 express is inferior to the Mossberg 590a1. The 590a1 and 870 Police are both pretty equal, personal preference will decide which one feels better to you.
     
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  17. r3dot

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    Next question: Ghost ring sights or traditional bead sights? Ghost rings & speedfeed stock add ~$50
     
  18. megawatt

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    Don't forget you can also get an additional 4 shells of capacity if you go with the speed feed stock model of the A1. Everything stays nice and tucked in a streamlined configuration while carrying 13 shells. Now thats a zombie gun for you.:wow:

    If you have the coin for the A1 and it sounds like you "want it" then get it and know that your going to have a great gun that will out last you. The A1's are over built and a serious piece of equipment. The long and heavy barrel is something you can feel the difference in, so if your into multiple days of training with it your going to notice the extra barrel weight and length. If you are into occasional range days where you shoot for an hour then go home your not going to notice it at all.

    The 500 tactical is lighter and less $$. The A1 will definately cost more, heck my A1 cost than my 930SPX autoloader!

    It sounds like you want the A1 and that is not a bad thing at all. Post pics when you get it.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. r3dot

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    Those look awesome!

    I looked at the 930 (why'd your a1 cost more?), and if a good deal comes out on one, I may just get one instead.
     
  20. I have an 870P, I'm use to them, and love them. Mine has Ghost Rings, if I was to buy a new gun, I would not get them. A HD shotgun dosent need them in my opinion. I've felt the 590s and really like them too. I may buy one someday. They *seem* as tough as I KNOW an 870P is. I would not buy a 500 except as a novelty, not a gun to depend on for anything. They seem and feel cheap. Mine was pretty ruff and didn't look like quality workmanship. I don't think you'd go wrong with a 590 or 590A1, and I'd advise a bead only. In a gun that may be used in your house, I'd buy the shortest barrel you can. If you need 8 or 9 shots in your house, you have big problems!