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Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by jojo_G19, Aug 27, 2007.


  1. jojo_G19

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    guys

    im currently looking for a shotgun for defense.

    any suggestions weather i should get a pump action or a semi-auto??

    in currenty eyeing these...

    armscor m30 pump action shotgun.
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    mossberg 590
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    winchester 1100
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    and
    winchester 1300
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    do u guys know the local authorized dealer of there shotgun?? and howmuch?

    i dont know if the winchester 1100 and the 1300 are locally available.




    my still open for a semi auto shotgun if there are any good suggestion.


    thanks
    jojo
     

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  2. cebuboy

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    If it were me, I'll go for the 590A1. Twin pines is selling them for 40k++.

    If you want a semi-auto, I'd reccomend the benelli m1/m2. and if you can afford it, the benelli m4 is as good as it gets.

    OTOH, the saiga is also a good choice... if you dont mind dealing with "whose name shall not be spoken in bog" (nashe) :)
     

  3. vega

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    Most suggestions I often read are pump for HD shotgun. Just practice with it so you don't short-stroke it. I wonder if semis jams a lot.


    Yes you can mention Nashe, it just opens up another window for flaming. :supergrin:
     
  4. deenoh

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    Personally, for HD, I'd get a pump. Among your choices, I'd go for the Mossberg
     
  5. jojo_G19

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    howmuch does an benelli m4 costs?? last time i checked 100k++. i wonder whats so special with the m4. why is it so expensive for a semi?


    i have also checked hahn manila, they carry hatsan shotgun. their hatsan escort looks nice. and costs nice too at 20k+.
    i just wonder if its just the same with the karatay pump which i had to sell because of the recoil. it has a terrible recoil.



    cebuboy;
    have you tried shooting the mossberg 590? how was the recoil??



    tnx
    jojo
     
  6. jojo_G19

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    sir deenoh;

    why a pump?? any disadvantage with a semi??

    im eyeing on the semi because i just feel that it is easier to use. no more pumping :supergrin:


    are there anymore SG that u can recommend which i have not listed?? i really have very limited knowledge with shotguns.


    tnx
    jojo:supergrin:
     
  7. deenoh

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    I'm no expert ha. just for the record :) I just like shotguns.

    As for why I prefer the pump, simplicity. It can be easier to clear a malfunction with a pump. As vega said, just dont short stroke it. Happened to me once, "click" lang. Hehe. Also, in well practiced hands, the pump can be shot quickly too.

    Turkish shotguns are ok both in quality and price. Tisas, Akkar, Hatsan, EGE
     
  8. vega

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    I am not that well practiced but whenever I take my shotgun for a spin I always make sure that at the end of each shooting session I practice with pumping while on recoil. Like you said it can be shot real quick.
     
  9. cebuboy

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    Why the m4 is so expensive?, because its a benelli :)

    Hatsan and Karatay are almost the same, they are light guns, thus they tend to kick more:) but their semi-autos kick lightly due to the gas action, just remember to stock up on o-rings.

    Yup, have shot a friends 590A1. the gun is heavier, its all steel so the kick is less:)

    Try to hook up with guys who got shotties, its best that you try different models... hth
     
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    Bikethief is selling his Mossberg 590a for a good price. check out buy&sell thread..
     
  11. Dok

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    i ordered a hatsan escort pump. compared to karatay, it more heavier. karatay is very light. hatsan is more well built, and the forend is nearer to the receiver so pumping is shorter
     
  12. New_comer

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    Like it or not, you've just got to live with fierce recoil if you prefer shotguns as a primary defence weapon. The apparent reduction of the kick in using heavier weapons may stil not be enough to appease your desire for a sweeter shooting weapon, unless you prefer to lug around an anvil if only to dissipate kick. If handguns are the scalpel, shotguns are the 'bolos' or heavy axe of small arms. They're supposed to be harsh.

    But if you've just got to have a shotgun, may I suggest you get a 20ga instead of the 12ga, and shoot #4buck instead of #00 magnum rounds. You'd definitely feel less kick as the round has comparatively less energy, while not necessarily losing effectiveness as a fantastic man-stopper that shotguns are. I remember PBD sells a semi in 20ga last gunshow, I suggest you check it out. Twin Pines also has a long list of branded SG's that may be in 20ga.

    If it still wouldn't work out for you, there's still the .410, which energy-wise is more than a match to a 45acp or 357mag. Good luck! ;)
     
  13. Allegra

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    Had a spas12 and a mossy 500 dati
    the mossy was definitely lighter but had more pleasnt recoil if you can call sg recoil pleasant

    i go w/ the military version of the 500 yung may bayonet stud
    or a remy 870 w/ polymer furniture

    question - for defense of farm and home do we really need a sling?
     
  14. vega

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    It's a lot easier to lug around if you have a sling. I used to carry my SG African style (not sure if right term) with the butt on top and the sling instead of the rifle on front. With the right lenght of sling it is easy to swing forward.
     
  15. deenoh

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    I'd personally do away with the sling for HD especially since there won't be a lot of moving to be done inside a house. Less clutter to deal with. I just found out last week that because of a tactical light attachment (the inexpensive types) I had on my SG, it would not properly cycle during semi auto. I think the clamps were to tight. Now, the SG does not have any "borloloys" attached to it just to be sure.

    But for farms, it would probably be more practical with a sling.
     
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    Any shotgun you end up with should have a nice, generous, buttstock recoil pad. Otherwise, you will remember each and every round.:)
     
  17. Allegra

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    Thats one of ther fastest way to present an sg :)
    Pocket carry pwede rin kasi kung sa farm and it doesnt need a sling
     
  18. darwin25

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    I always carry a long gun with a sling attached in the left side of the long gun. The sling is looped around my neck. Long gun in front of my torso. The sling should be long enough so it would allow you to shoulder your weapon with ease.
     
  19. vega

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    20ga definitely has less recoil, my 120lb daughter can handle that.

    Are there lots of 410 ammo in PH?
     
  20. New_comer

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    The only shop I've seen sell 410's is PBD, though I'm not sure if they're some sort of snakeshot, birdshot or buck.