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Saiga 12

Discussion in 'Tactical Shotguns' started by michael88, Sep 12, 2010.

  1. michael88

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    So I'm now considering a saiga 12. From what I've read they're dependable after being broken in. Any of you trust them to be your primary hd weapon? I'm considering just spending a little more and getting one instead of a Remington 870. I can't afford an ar at the moment, but the saiga gives you options to customize. I found one for 475 is that a good price? Let me know your thoughts.
     

  2. 1time

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    They are great shotguns and are a ton of fun to shoot. You cannot leave the mag loaded and in the gun or it will deform the shell that is pressing on the bottom of the bolt. I keep my mag loaded and it the gun but I leave the bolt open. Other than that minor detail you will love it. That is a pretty good price. Here they go from 525 to 650.
     
  3. space_weazel

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    Or-e-Gone?
    I really love mine, its a gun I will never sell and likely one I will get an extra of, mine and the few I have converted for friends have been 100%. Though to get them to look as good as this takes AR money but it can be done piece by piece so that makes it easier.

    I take care of all my equipment and as such with most everything I have I wouldn't hesitate to take it and use it. Though for bumps in the night I prefer a handgun and a light it makes a lot more sense in an enclosed space. JMO
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  4. michael88

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    Looks quite nice weasel. Just at that time where it's do I go with an 870 or spend the extra
     
  5. DreamWeaver88

    DreamWeaver88 ...............

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    They are imported like the pic below. The trigger assembly is more rearward than an AK47. They can be pretty easily converted so the trigger is in the correct spot so you can use a pistol grip.

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    After conversion.

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  6. michael88

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    Generally speaking bow much does the conversion run?
     
  7. rjrivero

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    Conversions can be done for as little as $150, if you do the work yourself. You can spend as much as you want to on a Saiga-12. There is a strong aftermarket for this particular shotgun.

    While it's true you can't leave a loaded magazine in the shotgun on a closed bolt, you CAN leave a loaded magazine in the shotgun with an OPEN bolt. Then you're one bump of the lever away from locked and loaded.

    A Saiga loaded with buck, or slugs is as reliable as anything, but when you're asking it to cycle with cheap bulk low brass birdshot, be prepared to do some polishing, and tweaking to get it to run 100%.

    Still, it's a fun shotgun and starting to dominate the 3 gun arena.
     
  8. bikerdog

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    Why does every one use the SAW grip when they do the conversions. Is it just your preference or are there no other good options ?
     
  9. rjrivero

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    Hell if I know. Maybe because they're so plentiful? I use an AR style grip on mine.
     
  10. g22od

    g22od G-22-OD

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    Seems to be a niche where someone would want to publish a book on how to convert the stock-import Saiga 12 to something more...uh...tacticool. There are lots of people out there doing conversions. Tromix seems to be the top of the heap and as a result you have to enter a monthly lottery to get one done. I keep my eyes open always for anyone in AZ doing conversions as a Saiga 12 seems to be the natural companion for my G-22. Curious if anyone has ever shot trap with one? Seems like it could be fun.
     
  11. michael88

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    heard that they shoot high and so aiming dead on helps...for trap.
     
  12. DreamWeaver88

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    I don't know......That's just what Tromix uses. I like the feel of the grip.

    DW
     
  13. rjrivero

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    Books? Books are out-dated by the time they get published.

    Take a look at www.forum.saiga-12.com for any info you could possibly want on Saiga shotguns, conversions, tips, tricks, Conversion Shops, or just about anything else you would want to do to these shot guns.
     
  14. CTfam

    CTfam DREAM BIG.

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    I had one.. Loved it, but now it's gone. Here in CT we can't have pistol grips on semi auto shotguns so I had this crazy butt hole stock that had the ergonomics of a crow bar. This really killed it for me. A proper conversion is a MUST IMO. The sporter AK configuration is just wrong. It was reliable but it would choke on bird shot. The new owner opened up the gas holes and now it runs like a champ.

    It is a big, heavy, super fun gun that you will quickly get carried away over building. :cool:

    I prefer a very basic pump these days.
     
  15. brucefire

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    I love mine. I do trust it. Where you run into trouble is when you use low brass game loads. Full brass has no problems with cycling. Once it is broken in the low brass loads are 95-98% reliable.

    Bruce
     

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  16. michael88

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    ahh i hate decisions, they suck. i was hoping i would get just a bunch of negative reports so i dont have to decide and go based on sense not opinion.
     
  17. Lurkus Maximus

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    Who makes that lock system?

     
  18. I trust mine. Super reliable with buck loads. I happen to love the Saw grip and have them on some of my other weapons. Also, I am not a dealer or anything like that, but check out MDarms for their drum sale. Their drums flat work, and they are super cheap right now.