S&W 686 vs 19

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by BrentC, Oct 26, 2013.


  1. I have been looking for a good condition used 686 for a while. I saw a very good condition 19-5 for $750. Could someone give a short summary of what the difference between a 19 and a 686 is and is $750 a fair price for the 19-5?
     

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  2. TBO

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    19 built to be light for carry. 686 is beefy/heavy build to stand up to a steady diet of magnum loads.
    If you intend to bang lots of mags, get 686. 19 great for carry, shooting. 38's and occasional mags.

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  3. I'd say $750 is kinda high unless it is pristine w/ box/papers myself... and offer a $100 less, but you know your locale better than I and they aren't making them anymore.

    Barrel length? 2.5" (nice), 4" (sweet), 6"... (why?)

    19 = K frame
    686 = L frame
     
  4. K and L frames are much different.

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    Notice my S&W 66 on the left .vs. my 686 on the right. The frame of the L is thicker, forcing cone thicker, and even cylinder thicker even though both are 6 shot revolvers.

    Even in 2 1/2 form the 686 is rather heavy.

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  5. As others mentioned, the 19 has a smaller frame.
     
  6. The 19-5 version started in 1982 and the model change eliminated the pinned barrel and recessed cylinder. 19-6 started in 1988.
     
  7. Yep, unfortunately, mine is a -6 model. I much prefer the pinned and recessed models.

    I have a no dash 66 to make up for it. ;)
     
  8. $750.00 is too high. $550.00-$600.00 is more like it.
     
  9. Yeah, there's no way in hell I'd pay $750 for a 19-5. If its was an older model that was pinned and recessed unfired with the box and papers, it could approach $650 to $700.

    $750 for a 19-5 is outrageous. I bought my 19-6 in like new condition last year for $400.
     
  10. I wouldn't even pay that much.
     
  11. barth

    barth six barrels

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    I think this is dead on.
    I've got a 65-3 3" K frame.
    It's dreamy to carry.
    But less fun to shoot with full power magnums.

    If lots of Magnum Force is on the menu?
    I'd definitely recommend a 686.
     
    #11 barth, Oct 26, 2013
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  12. byf43

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    Well said, sir!! :thumbsup:

    OP:
    I wouldn't pay over $500 for a pristine mdl 19. Actually, it would have to be new, in box, for that kind of $$$.
    (And this is from a big mdl 19 fan!!)
     
  13. Oh, I dunno bac. For us wheel gun aficianados, K frame 357 magnums are pretty highly sought after. Mid 500 to low or mid 600 dollar range isn't really out of line.

    $750.00 is ridiculous, though.
     
  14. The M19 is pretty common. I see them around here quite often (maybe once a month on average). Prices are normally under $500 even in great shape. K frames haven't really risen in value compared to the larger Smiths.

    The models that are more sought after are the pinned and recessed models. If a pinned and recessed model still unfired in box came up for sale, $600 to $700 sounds about right.

    There's really nothing too special about a 19-5. It's a great revolver, but certainly far from rare or in demand.
     
    #14 bac1023, Oct 26, 2013
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  15. The 19's that sell for higher amounts are the pinned and recessed variety. They are the models with a little collector's value, not the -5.

    Collectors don't want them. Great shooters, but not really collectible.
     
    #15 bac1023, Oct 26, 2013
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  16. fnfalman

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    I like the K-frame better than the L-frame. Lighter and more agile in the hand. And let's face it, most of us aren't competitive shooters who will send thousands of .357 Mag rounds down range.
     
  17. Thanks for the feed back everyone. I will let this 19-5 go. I'm a big guy and the extra weight of the 686 would not bother me in the least so I think I will wait for a 686.
     
  18. Bren

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    $750?

    I don't think used revolvers are going for that much. The last 19 I bought was about 10 years ago, for $270. The most I've ever paid for a S&W revolver was $500 for a 3" 686 CS1, about 5 years ago, but those are kind of collectible. In KY I can buy a Python for $750 (I have seen them for oless in the last 3-4 years) and S&W and other Colts are usually in the $350-500 range.
     
  19. There is saying that some S&W collectors use: You can't pay too much, you can just pay too early. I am thinking $750 might be a bit early, by a year or three. But a couple years ago I would have said $750 was decades too early.
     
  20. hogship

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    I think this is a good decision. For me, unless a spectacular deal comes along, I won't bother with a K frame chambered in 357mag.

    If a nice K frame chambered in 38spl comes my way, it would be difficult to resist that......:supergrin:

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