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S&W 1911 DK Model Opinions

Discussion in '1911 Forums' started by thug23, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. thug23

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    So I'm in the market for a new 1911 by S&W and came across some info on the Doug Koenig model...the 45 ACP which is cheaper than the 38 super model.
    Anyway I have read a lot of people who say this is a great gun, shoots well, handles nice and with the extra upgrades really makes it worth the extra couple hundred dollars.
    Then I've read from those who say its simply a regular 1911 with "little" upgrades which brings on a "bigger" price tag...so skip this model and either go with the base or Performance Center instead.
    So for those who know thru experience or ownership of the DK model...
    IS THIS A GOOD MODEL 1911 TO PURCHASE OR A RIP OFF??
    Thanks for your time and advice.
     
  2. bac1023

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    The only DK Smith to go with is the Performance Center model in 38 Super.

    The other one is the same quality as a base SW1911.

    They're two totally different guns.
     


  3. Cobra64

    Cobra64 Deals in Facts

    I have a Plain S&W and a DK PC. The PC is incredible.

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  4. bac1023

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    Yes they are :cool:
     
  5. thug23

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    And obviusly as you know the price is like twice as much for the 38 super...so for me, today I can only afford the 45 price...do I go for it or hold out for a simple base model which will be a couple hundred dollars less ?
    Thanks again.
     
  6. bac1023

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    I'd go for the base model. What's the sense of having a "mock" DK gun?
     
  7. bac1023

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    Its almost like wearing a fake Rolex. ;)


    :animlol:
     
  8. Cobra64

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    :upeyes:

    I paid $900 for my S&W shown above and $1,990 for the DK Performance Center.
     
  9. bac1023

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    Mark,

    I think he's comparing the 45ACP DK model vs the standard SW1911.
     
  10. thug23

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    Yes guys I'm sorry I was asking about the difference between a base model 1911 and the DK model in 45 ACP.
    I'm fully aware of the upgrades, price and all the bells & whistles you get with the 38 super model which is out of my league right now.
    So with that said I guess I'm wondering is the DK model worth the extra couple hundred dollars and if so, WHY ?
    Thanks for your help.
     
  11. bac1023

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    It basically has a magwell, a flat trigger, and an ambi safety over the base SW1911.

    The trigger isn't an upgrade, just different.






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  12. thug23

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    How's the recoil on these guns?
    I've read that a lot of people change out the recoil spring...it comes with a 16lb spring and they change to an 18lb or 20lb spring to minimize the recoil shock...
    Sound reasonable? :dunno::dunno::dunno:
     
  13. bac1023

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    Recoil isn't bad at all with a full size 1911.
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2011
  14. Cobra64

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    Personally, I maintain recoil spring weights designed for the weapon. Changing them up or down will have an effect on slide velocity and thus affect FTF or FTE.
     
  15. thug23

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    OK I will keep the spring size as is...thankx.
     
  16. bac1023

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    :agree:

    Its fine the way it is.
     
  17. I have a few hundred rounds through my stock S&W 1911, all without a hitch. 1911s in general are a pain to clean, compared to a Glock. I also added a Wilson 10 round mag for nightstand use and the gun/magazine combination run flawlessly.

    A lighter return spring is valid for reduced power target loads. I feel that S&W, in entering the 1911 market, knew that its market consisted of more knowledgeable and gun-savvy shooters, alng with some well-established 1911 gunmakers. If word got out of reliability problems, they would be dead at the starting gate. So, if S&W settled for a 16 pound spring (if that's what it is), they did so with good reason and after extensive range testing with a variety of commercially available factory ammo.

    I find the recoil of the S&W 1911 quite manageable using full-house 230 grain loads.
     
  18. fnfalman

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    I concur. It's like the Gunsite version. It's no different from the PD yet it costed more just because of the Raven.