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Ruger LC-9 safety removal...

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by Indy_Guy_77, Mar 10, 2011.


  1. Indy_Guy_77

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    Just curious:

    I know on the S&W M&P pistols, the safety lever can be very easily removed as it is just a physical block type system. It's not at all integral to the mechanics of the trigger system.

    What about the safety on the Ruger? Can it, too, be removed in a similar manner?

    Or is it thin enough and non-intrusive enough to just leave the safety off and not worry about removing it?

    Thanks,

    -J-
     

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  2. brisk21

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    I hope it can be safely removed. I would at least not even use it, but theres always a chance that it could get clicked on during carry.
     

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    Exactly.

    I know that member M1Carbine has almost 1000rds through his so far. I remember him stating that he doesn't use the safety at all.

    I just wonder about it being "in the way" both in carrying and in shooting. I know the safety on my M&P was definitely in the way. Key word "was".

    -J-
     
  4. buckshotshorty

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    For me, the safety on the LC9 is no problem...I never use it. I don't see how it could go on accidentally since it takes quite a bit of force to engage it. At first, I thought it was stuck or broken. Then I remember reading somewhere that it took a good deal of force to activate it.
     
  5. M2 Carbine

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    I've got over a thousand (trouble free) rounds through the gun now.

    I am generally not a fan of the thumb safety. If nothing else, usually they are too awkward to operate.
    But since the safety is on the LC9 and so many people complain about it, me included, I thought I'd give it a fair trial.

    First, the safety is so small and so stiff I don't believe there's a chance that it will make it to the ON position by accident.

    Second, the safety is easily pushed down (OFF) with the right thumb without changing hand position.

    So that's two points in Ruger's favor.

    I used the safety a lot while shooting those 1,000 rounds, maybe 25% of the time. The only problem was when I would forget I had put the safety ON and I'd try to shoot the first round. Of course that's 100% operator error.

    Later on I got used to the safety and I hate to admit it, but I actually feel better with the safety ON, like today, while carrying the gun around town in my pocket.

    So, IMO, use the safety or don't use it, your choice, but either way I don't think you will have any problem with it.


    Now if we can do something about the magazine disconnect and lawyer lock.:)
     
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    I agree with M2Carbine. I've put a couple hundred rounds through a LC9. I can't imagine the safety being engaged by accident. It's just too small and stiff to get hung on something and pushed up.

    I jut hope someone finds a way to deactivate the magazine safety if nothing else.
     
  7. Brian Lee

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    I have not shot one yet, but want one, and I seriously doubt that the safety will bother me even if I decide not to ever use it.
     
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    Thats good to hear. It sounds like Ruger engineered the safety so you could use it if you want, but don't need to if you don't. And as long as you can be confident that it won't click on, your good to go.:cool:
     
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    If you are that worried about it, maybe a bit of JB Weld in the right place would disable it.
     
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    Ah yes...

    Magazine disconnect.

    Any word yet on the process to remove/disable THAT fun little feature?

    Maybe I should just get myself re-interested in a Kahr CW-9 rather than a Ruger LC-9...

    -J-
     
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    I disabled the mag disconnect, AND removed the manual safety on my LC9.

    The manual safety on my gun wasn't as stiff after some use and cleaning like some make it out to be. It clicked up and down with just a little pressure. Ive been carrying it now for a few weeks, and I never had it click on, but its ALWAYS in a holster, so for me it has no purpose. While I had the guns guts out to work on the Mag disconnect I popped off the safety bar. Done deal.

    [​IMG]

    And I picked up a second magazine for my pocket. These little gun, and a Tom Brown Scout at the small of my back are the newest additions to my EDC.

    [​IMG]

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    The original version of the LC9 did not come with mag safety or thumb safety.

    [​IMG]

    Yeah, Ruger copied it and added unnecessary junk.
     
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    you savvy?

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    thats was a black eye you just gave ruger ya know? true 100% but a black eye to them just the same.:rofl:
     
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    If you are comfortable with tearing into the guts of a pistol you can easily remove the thumb safety and mag safety. You can also modify the internal "lawyer lock" so it can't be turned on.


    I removed the mag safety.
    With use I became comfortable with the thumb safety and now use it when carrying the gun.



    Funny thing is, a couple days ago I (impulse) bought a Ruger SR9C. It has the same features as the LC9, except it doesn't have a internal "lawyer lock".

    BTW the SR9C looks like a keeper. So far 350 rounds with no gun caused malfunctions. Good trigger. Good adjustable sights, and it's accurate back to 52 yards.
     
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    Also read that if you have any technical ability at all the magazine disconnect can be removed in 20 min. and thats from freshly getting the gun and taking it apart to having it functioning perfectly. You just have to remove part #'s 11/12 for the magazine safety disconnect. Just look at rugers website at the blown up picture of a LC9 with all the parts listed.
    From what i've read you take out the piece at the bottom of the magazine, get needle nose lyers and release tension on spring #8 i believe, pop out the two pins #s 44/45 i believe pins and the slide/trigger assembly will be ready to pull out. Be carfeul and function the gun a couple times by pulling the trigger so you konw how the gun functions/works before you start pulling things out so when you put it back together you have an iea of how everything works. Pull out the slide/trigger assembly and from what i've read heep pressure on both sides of the rails so the #5bar/sprng or whatveer doesnt pop out. Remove parts 11/12, then reassemble and you're done.
     
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    California started this crap with their laws. For any pistol company to be able to sell their guns in CA they have to put a loaded chamber indicator, mag-in interlock, some sort of manual safety, and the lawyer-lock into the firearm.

    Give me a Glock or a Kahr; pull the trigger = bang.
     
  17. M2 Carbine

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    Shot the gun again this morning using still another bullet. 100+ rounds of 124 grain Berry JRN plated bullets using 4 different magazines.

    That's over 1,300 trouble free rounds now.

    I think I'm becoming fond of this gun.:)
     
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    Removing a safety factory installed safety device might (just might) be used against you by a prosecutor if you ever have to use your weapon. Why not just not use it? The DA trigger pull in theory acts as a safety. I've never had any problemsn. Most every one of the very small .32, .380, 9mm, and .40 caliber carry guns have no safety except a long DAO trigger pull. Same with DAO revolvers.
    I had a Kel Tec P11 without a safety. A couple of Taurus PT145's that I never used the safties on (with other problems though). Same with a PT-111 and never had any problems with it. Kel Tec P32, P3AT, PF9 not a single problem. Kahr MK40 not a single problem. Not to mention numerous Glocks, XD's, and other guns with no external safties. As long as you use a holster that covers the trigger, work with your guns trigger pull, not using an external safety is not really a problem on long DAO guns. Like I said I started with revolvers and only shot them DAO. No safety, no problem. Just don't engage it. These type of guns really don't need it.
     
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    I agree to a point, California SUCKS for gun owners/manufacturers in that they have to have certain safeties, etc. But California doesnt make it MANDATORY to have ALL those safeties. I own a FNH FNP-40 bought in California, and my gun has only a decocker and a "loaded chamber indicator" that BARELY sticks out the side of the ejection port. To be honest i dont even trust the loaded chamber indicator since it literally barely sticks out at all, i cant even do a feel check thats how little it moves, to be honest i dont even think it works ;) Other than that, no safeties, no mag disconnect safety, nothing. The ONLY safety on it is a loaded chamber indicator, i dont consider a de-cocker a saftey but to each his own.. Great gun, its one that i'll never sell as i love the feel/accuracy/look of the gun, not to mention i havent had one FTF FTE, nothing in over 2k rounds. The slide didnt lock back for the first 100 or so rounds (guessing it just needed to be broken in a bit) but as soon as the recoil spring loosened up a tiny bit it hasnt failed since..
    Anyways sorry for getting off topic, but California, i believe, only maes mandatory that it has some sort of drop safety so the gun doesnt go off if dropped (almost all new guns have some sort of this safety now) and they require a loaded chamber indicator, other than that all those other safeties are BS unless theres different rules/laws for micro guns..
    Also if you purchase the gun and alter it, as long as you dont take off/add anything that would make the gun illegal, its completely legal to do; its your gun you own it. A magazine safety disconnect is not a mandatory safety for California guns so thats coming off first thing. Not to mention i dont carry much in the Republik of Kalifornia because i dont have a CCW permit for this county (lol, they do CCW permits here by county not state ;)) so i only carry if im going to a bad neighborhood. Other than that i do a lot of traveling so i have both my utah/nevada CCW permits and i get reciprocity with those two permits in ~40 states. So as long as im not caught in Kalifornia with the magazine disconnect removed i think ill be ok, and even then i dont think it'd matter, but im not 100% on this so look it up before you do it ;)
     
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    SB 489 (Stats. 2003, ch. 500) (Scott)

    Requires that effective January 1, 2006, no semiautomatic center-fire pistol model may be added to the roster of handguns certified for sale in California unless it has a chamber load indicator or, if it has a detachable magazine, a magazine disconnect mechanism. No rimfire semiautomatic pistol that has a detachable magazine may be added to the certified list of handguns for sale in California unless it has a magazine disconnect mechanism. Effective January 1, 2007, no semiautomatic pistol may be added to the roster unless it has both a chamber load indicator and, if it has a detachable magazine, a magazine disconnect mechanism. Handgun models that have been placed on the roster prior to the new requirements becoming operative may remain on the roster without these features (PC §§ 12126, 12130).

    Exempts the sale, loan, or transfer of any semiautomatic pistol that is to be used solely as a prop in a motion picture, television, or video production by an authorized agent of the entity producing the production or event from the requirements pertaining to the roster of handguns certified for sale in California (PC § 12132).

    Hmmm, wondering how they sold me my FNP-40 now ;).. They havent beeen on the shelves in quite a while so maybe they pulled them, ut i bought mine a bit over a year ago so the law was DEFINITELY in affect. Im at a loss for words as i saw FN's selling all over for a while, and they're still selling the 5.7x28 which doesnt have a magazine disconnect.