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Discussion in 'Political Issues' started by maxsnafu, Jun 17, 2012.
Not surprised. As I said in another thread, this is the problem the GOP has with illegal immigration. No coherent packaged response to the issue when questioned by a progressive/liberal person. They don't want to rock the boat with something that might be unpopular to one voting block or another.
The current situation is unpopular with their 'base' .....
They're not concerned about their base.
Romney knows the illegals are going to eventually be given amnesty, and he knows the republican base is against amnesty.
His head must be spinning.
Then how are they going to get the votes? (They are planning to win the elections, right? Right? Please tell me they are.)
Look at all the Romneybot Kool-Aid drinkers here. Their votes are his, no matter what. With such a captive audience, you can focus on acting like a liberal, hoping to garner more liberal votes.
It's a Liberal vs a Socialist. There is a potential spoiler play from a LIBertarian, but that has yet to materialize.
We have some time left to decide.
But if today were election day. And Ron was off licking his wounds or after he gave an impassioned and heartfelt endorsement of Romney..... really doesn't matter which.....
If it were only the liberal and the socialist running, you can vote for one, or the other, or neither.
It will all be very interesting to watch.
Voting the lesser evil is what has gotten us to the point of the "liberal vs socialist".
Now, consider that neither is evil. Both want what is best for the country, but have different ideas about how to bring that about.
Who then do each one of us choose.
I strongly believe, that what has gotten us to this point, is an incremental invasion of procedures from liberals that brought us to our current nomination process. Why on EARTH would we nominate our candidates based on the votes of states in THE SAME ORDER AS THE LIBERALS.???????
It's madness. The order the states currently have their primary's and caucuses is specifically designed to nominate the MOST LIBERAL candidate for each party.
I see three possible solutions.
1. A single day nationwide Republican Primary.
2. Reverse the current order that the states go in.
3. Allow the 10 largest red states to go first.
It's not the election where the battle is won, it's the nomination process. Fix that, and we will all be better off.
I firmly believe that the liberal progressives want only what is best for themselves and those close to them. The republican party of today isn't far behind them.
I don't have any answers.
I don't agree with that at all. The system that these two guys are a part of leads to one very predictable and inescapable conclusion: The end of the American way of life as we know it. When the largest, most indebted government in history finally collapses under its own weight, tens of millions will suffer for it. Neither of these men has any desire to see it play out any differently, and that's what makes them evil. Whoever is sworn in next January will work tirelessly to create a worse future for all of us.
It'll never happen. Why? The process works perfectly. The Republican party leadership gets the candidate they want every 4 years.
Well, maybe with enough tea party infiltration .....
Berry "Blew" badly it for the last 3 Plus years....Yet the desperate lemmings continue to point fingers....and not admit that.....Maybe to get the attention off their chosen one who is The screw up `in office`?
Then my question is this: Where have they been?
The Tea Party isn't comprised of new humans. I have to assume the vast majority weren't voting democratic until a few years ago. I have to assume these people have been in the Republican mix for the last several election cycles.
This isn't new.
Then why have they done away with party bosses selecting the candidates?
I'm with Doc. Fix the broken process. I like #3, personally.
Not really sure what he blew. I haven't watched that show since Herbert Hoover, but my guess is that he was smooth as silk. The good governor will need to throw a bone to Johnny Punchclock every now and then, but being consistently smooth will gain him a lot of lobbyist dollars.
Immigration hasn't been much of a topic since--well, maybe since Hoover. America's big business does not really concern itself with the mundane trivialities of its riff raff. As long as the masses will be entertained by Sunday morning cartoons, we can be assured of our big government security, cable television, and home delivered pizza.
Stalin once said, "It does not matter who votes, or how. What matters is who counts the votes".
Seems like he was wrong. What really matters is who puts names on the ballot. And I have yet to figure out who does that in this country.
Never say never. Anything is possible. Maybe with Palin as RNC chair.