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Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by MississipVol, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. MississipVol

    MississipVol

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    I have been thinking about getting a Smith-Wesson .357 Model 60 revolver. I shot my brother's Taurus Ultra-Lite .38 and did not like the way it kicked. Maybe I am just used to my smooth-shooting Glock but it was pretty uncomfortable after only a dozen rounds.

    Would a Smith Model 60 kick similar to that or would the few ounces of extra weight (and design) make take out some of the recoil?

    Thanks!
     
  2. rednoved

    rednoved NRA Member

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    The heavier gun should help with recoil. However, if the .38 wasn't comfortable, I don't think you will enjoy the .357.
     

  3. countrygun

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    I bought a 60 "Ladysmith" .357. It is the only one of her six .357s that she shoots strictly .38s in, if that tells you anything.
     
  4. DGreno

    DGreno FF/Paramedic Silver Member

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    I hava a 60 and a 442. The 442 is similar in weight to the Taurus ultralite. Obviously the 442 is only .38 but hopefully this helps anyway. The 60's recoil is substantially lighter with .38 +p than in the 442 with the same rounds. It is stainless steel compared to aluminum. See if you can find a range to try them out side by side. FWIW, the 60 is one gun I will never get rid of.
     
  5. Fox

    Fox Varmit Control

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    You might like the Colt Detective Special more than the S&W J-frame snubbies.
     
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    A good set of grips can go a long way to taming recoil.
     
  7. jdw174

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    I've shot a bunch of small, short barrelled .357's using full power ammo, and the recoil, muzzle blast and muzzle flash aren't exactly things of beauty. That's why most opt for .38+P loads. If I were really bent on a magnum snubby, I'd look around for a used S&W Mod 19 2.5". To that, I'd add a pair of Pachmayer grips.
     
  8. Bruce M

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    Not the most comfortable gun to shoot with magnum loads but far from the worst. A J frame is a very versatile handgun.
     
  9. meathead19

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    A 640-1 is probably my most versatile revolver.

    Can shoot .38 and .357 and has the full lug to help with recoil. Concealed hammer too.

    In the $500 range if you can find one.
     
  10. WT

    WT America First! Millennium Member

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    There is really no upside for a .357 MAGNUM J-frame snubby.

    I suggest the older Model 60 in .38 Special. It is a slightly smaller revolver compared to the Magnum J-frames.
     
  11. Bren

    Bren NRA Life Member

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    Going from .38 to .357, the heaviest J-frame .357 you can get is going to kick a LOT more than his Ultra-Lite .38. You can put on rubber grips and learn to grip the gun better, but it is never really going to be equal or less.

    If shooting .38 hurts your hand, nothing in .357 is really going to be for you.
     
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    Dont' forget there are a couple of really nice 'mid-range' .357 loads (Remington 125 grain Golden Saber and Speer 125 grain Gold Dots, for example) that fall half-way between .38 +Ps and full-house .357 loads. I find these perfect for use in my 3" model 60.
     
  13. WT

    WT America First! Millennium Member

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    bhk - I load my 3" Model 65, a K-frame with heavy barrel, with 'mid-range' Remington 125 grain Golden Saber rounds.

    I think it is an ideal round for a medium sized revolver for various reasons. However, the K-frame is larger and heavier than a J-frame.

    However, my splits would probably be shorter if I went with .38 Special +P but I am willing to accept the longer times in this particular scenario.

    Back in 1960 NYPD found that officers could accurately shoot six 158 gr LRN in the same time frame as four 158 gr Magnum loads in K-frame revolvers.
     
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    Bren NRA Life Member

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    In the 1980's, the FBI found that the 158 gr LRN ranks barely above .22 LR as a fight stopper and Massad Ayoob pointed out in an article that no Kentucky State Trooper had ever been shot by a person who had already been hit by a 125 gr. SJHP .357 round.

    There is no time I can imagine, other than shooting zombies at close range, where "six 158 gr LRN" is preferable to "four 158 gr Magnum loads."
     
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    I just reported what I read but I think it is still relevant today regarding split times of Standard vs Magnum loads.

    The NYPD street cops in the test preferred more lead in the target in as fast a time frame as possible over the more powerful Magnum loads.

    The Magnum loads used in the test were NOT hollowpoints.

    Nowadays, I prefer carrying/shooting 158 gr. .38 Special LSWCHP+P over 158 gr. JHP .357 Magnums.
     
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    I carry this one time to time.

    +p .38 Winchester JHP should do the job 99% of the time.