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Retirement isn't a right

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by devildog2067, Sep 16, 2012.

  1. Detectorist

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    Ok, if I retire at the minimum retirement age, which is 62, my break even point is 33 months. However, that does not take into account PV - inflation, interest, or opportunity costs.
     
  2. 427

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    Promises don't mean a thing when there's no money.

    What happens when the businesses, fed, state and local businesses go under? With 16+ trillion in debt and tens if not hundreds of trillions in unfunded liabilities, deficit spending, along with businesses going under or bought and sold, that's the reality.

    That's not even mentioning that a lifetime of savings buys less and less.

    All of this has been brought to us by .gov through politicians who've promised too much and by voters who've realized that they can vote themselves money.

    I'm wondering when enough people will say enough is enough and refuse to play the game.
     

  3. You're right, My mistake. They all sound alike after a while.

    http://www.redstate.com/wosg/2011/09/08/romneys-thats-a-nutty-idea-pierre-moment/

     
  4. Hamrhed

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    Agreed... I will work until I die, or find an upscale dumpster to dive into :thumbsup:
     
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  5. certifiedfunds

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    Work under the table, otherwise, there is nothing.

    Even pretend conservatives here get all pissy when you criticize SS.
     
  6. dango

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    We are stupid and they know. Even though we see it,
    We do nothing. Now that is stupid !
     
  7. KommieforniaGlocker

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    I disagree with you, there are many people that do.
     
  8. G36's Rule

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    I guess post #5 isn't going to get an answer...
     
  9. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Tewwowist

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    At what point does one man's need justify theft from another?
     
  10. devildog2067

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    This thread isn't about health care.
     
  11. G36's Rule

    G36's Rule Senior Member

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    It is the same entitlement mentality. But you go ahead and ignore that fact.
     
  12. Powder

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    Work and have fun in life while you can. When you get to the point you cannot be self-sustaining anymore, take the noble way out.........
     
  13. devildog2067

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    :dunno:

    Dude, what are you on about? I'm not "ignoring" anything. I'm choosing not to answer your question in this thread because this thread isn't about that issue. If someone else chooses to, I don't own this thread, you all can have that discussion.

    I think it's crazy weird that you're all butthurt that I didn't answer a question you asked that's on a different topic than the one this thread is about.
     
  14. DanaT

    DanaT Pharaoh

    So after all these pages, who is gonna take care of me?
     
  15. G36's Rule

    G36's Rule Senior Member

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    It isn't a different topic, and you know it. Healthcare and retirement are the same topic. Taxpayer funded socialism.

    I'm not butthurt about anything. Just funny how you ignore the obvious in an attempt to appear real man!
     
  16. dango

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    Now that would be a good question to confront our so called representatives with. Unfortunately,I'm in the :Raped and Pillaged" group myself ! :tongueout:
     
  17. JMS

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    I take from this thread that DD and CF will not be filing for SSA retirement benefits ever based on their principles correct?
     
  18. UtahIrishman

    UtahIrishman BLR Silver Member

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    Retirement is no more a right than driving a car is a right.

    However I'll be seriously pissed if I can't do either. I don't think the Federal government really knows how seriously irate people will be if they can't enjoy at least a few years without the daily grind.

    I have my own safety net in place though.
     
  19. when the place as benefits or perks of working there said..after X age we will give you X benefits when you retire....and then after telling or guarnteeing you this try to pull the rug out from under you by all of a sudden taking them away...i just ask to be told the TRUTH about my job and benefits. Dont tell me one thing then after almost 20 yeArs of service try to change the **** in the middle...tell me what i either got or dont got up front so i can decide. I will readily admitt i took my current job because of the benefits they told me id get when i retire. And i expect them not to lie or change it on me after 25 years or service.

    All i ask is tell me the truth up front


    is a RIGHT of course not..but when i take a job i expect to get what they told me id get when isigned up and if some of that is decent retirement benefits so be it.
     
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  20. devildog2067

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    I'm 31. I don't harbor any illusions that Social Security will be around in 30-40 more years.