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Discussion in 'Volunteer Glockers' started by Zak3056, Jun 4, 2010.


  1. Zak3056

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    All,

    FYI, the Senate overrode the governor's veto of the restaurant bill on 5/27. The House just overrode the veto about five minutes ago, so the unencumbered restaurant bill will now become law.
     

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  3. why

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    Most Excellent. When does it become law?
     
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    so with them "overriding" the veto it automatically becomes law? there is no more debate? how long before it acutally becomes law?
     
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    Here's what I have 'read on the internet'. So take it fwiw.

    The law takes effect after the Speakers of the House and Senate sign it. It MAY have to wait until this session is over (which will be tuesday).

    I have also read that the red slash thru a pistol sign will become a legal posting, so that is VERY bad news imo. I kinda liked the idiots not knowing that they werent prohibiting firearms when they thought they were.
     
  6. Zak3056

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    The law takes effect on July 1st.

    Also, the bit about the posting requirement is not correct. The law (relevant portion quoted below) simply allows the inclusion of this symbol in the signage--however, the required verbiage may not be omitted. I think it's a good change. Personally, I think they should have required the symbol (in addition to the rest of the sign) and not simply allowed it.

    The full text of the legislation is available at http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/106/Bill/HB3125.pdf
     
  7. why

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    THANK YOU ZAK!
    Made my day!
     
  8. Fallguy

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    Zak3056 I'm afraid you're wrong on both accounts.

    You can see the bill here http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=SB3012 The link you posted is the House bill, but it is the Senate bill that passed. See 05/05/10 But......

    What you have to notice is that on 4/29/10 Senate amendments 1-3 were adopted which completely changed the original bill

    Sec 7 of Amendment 1 http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/106/Amend/SA1236.pdf changed the effective date to "Immediately upon becoming law" now there is some question whether that meant Fri night or after the Secretary of State assigns a Public chapter number, but either way it is before July 1.

    Sec 3 of Amendment 1 Changed 39-17-1359(b)(1) to say that either the properly worded sign or the "ghostbusters" sign or both would be a legal posting.

    Amendment 2 http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/106/Amend/SA1281.pdf changed the punishment in Amendment 1 for consuming while armed.

    Amendment 3 http://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/106/Amend/SA1343.pdf changed the wording of a 39-17-1359 from that in Amendment 1 but still says either type notice can be given.
     
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    If that's the case, I apologize for spreading misinformation. I didn't realize that the state website (apparently) doesn't display the text of the bill as passed (like the Library of Congress' Thomas website does).

    Someone over on the TFA website put together an "as amended" version of the bill, which can be found at http://www.tfaonline.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=3318

    There's a note in that thread that says the folks responsible for maintaining the Tennessee code are acting as if this doesn't go into effect until the 1st, even though the "as amended" languages says otherwise. So I'm glad that I'm not the only one who is confused! :)
     
  10. Fallguy

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    Well the info is on their...you just have to read through to see what amendments passed and so on and click on the "Amendments on Bill" tab to read the text.

    When it posted on the Secretary of State's website http://www.tennessee.gov/sos/acts/index.htm and given a Public Chapter number http://tnsos.org/acts/PublicActs.106th.php?showall that will show the final version all together.

    TN Gunowners also has a copy of the bill with all the amendments in place http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/tennessee-politics-legislation/41111-new-law-sb3012-amended.html See below

    I have seen the info about July 1 as well...it appears to be from a misinformed person at the Secretary of State's office.

    However with some much confusion on the effective date, I wouldn't think most LEOs would charge anyone for carry in a place that serves as long as it's not posted.
     
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    The bill has been issued Public Chapter 1009 and shows an effective date of June 4, 2010

    Carry in good health...
     
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    Does anyone know if the law about having a firearm in your car while at work has any steam or is going anywhere? Thanks. Drop me a line at ehrenlowers AT gmail DOT com if your ever in the Memphis area.
     
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    The bill was sent to summer study (again) and the legislature has adjourned for this session....so will be a while... :(
     
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