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Reloads at the IDPA World Championships

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Steve Koski, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. Steve Koski

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    OK, that's a misleading title. Here's a video I put together of shots from the IDPA world champioinship. I think everyone in here is shooting reloads.

    I was one of maybe 4 people at the match shooting a .40 S&W. I shot pansy loads at 4.0 gr WST under a 180 JHP. They chrono'd at 145-147 PF.

    Far and away the most popular bullet for SSP and ESP was a 147 grain jacketed. These sounded like primer loads, but made power factor. Watch the presence/non-presence of recoil around the 2:50, 3:00, and 3:30 marks.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaZSEs7lBnw
     
  2. F106 Fan

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    That looks like a whole lot of fun!

    I am loading the 147 gr FMJ (and Berry's plated) and experimenting with an XD9 but ultimately I will be shooting a G34. We have a very nice range setup at Ione (CA).

    Thanks for posting the link.

    Richard
     


  3. Steve Koski

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    F106 - What powder & how much are you using?

    Thx,

    Koski
     
  4. F106 Fan

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    I have only loaded about 50 Montana Gold 147 gr CMJ with 3.2 gr Titegroup.
    I haven't had a chance to get to the range - maybe tomorrow.

    Richard
     
  5. fredj338

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    Have to be handloads Koski, how else would one get to a 125PF-126PF w/ their 9mm or 40? Even for CDP, why shoot 195PF when all you need is 165-170PF?
     
  6. Steve Koski

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    You could definitely tell those shooting factory 9mm from those shooting soft reloads. Much sharper/louder crack.
     
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  7. RustyFN

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    That was pretty cool Steve. It had to be a lot of fun watching and shooting with some of the big names that were there.
     
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  8. Zombie Steve

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    Wonder how much they had to pay Guns and Roses to play the match.
     
  9. Steve Koski

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    Their fingers were sure tired after 6 days of non-stop performing.
     
  10. noylj

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    Isn't Ione close to an area of white (asbestos) hills and a lot of old mercury mines?
     
  11. jmorris

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    I doubt if 3.2 of titegroup will make it with a jacketed bullet but it will with berrys 147 @ 1.160"
     
  12. Colorado4Wheel

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    Nice. Why was there a section when they didn't have a cover garment?

    Those were really nice stages.
     
  13. Steve Koski

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    Steve,

    You only have to wear concealment if the COF description says so. Some matches are 70% (or even 100%) yes, other matches are 70% optional. You never know.

    Koski
     
  14. rpgman

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    I'm loading a 147gr but using Precision Delta bullets for 9mm
    Greg
     
  15. F106 Fan

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    I don't really know. We do pass by the Rancho Seco Nuclear Power Plant on the way in but it has been decomissioned and is now a recreational park.

    The range is actually about 10 miles northwest of Ione.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ione,_California

    The area looks like grazing land for cattle. There's not a lot of anything out there.

    Now, down around Clear Creek (San Benito) we used to race dirt bikes and camp. It was well known for Mercury mines and every bit of the soil was asbestos containing. I just read that it is now closed. Bummer...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Creek_(San_Benito_River)

    Richard
     
  16. F106 Fan

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    I had a chance to chronograph these today. I had an average velocity of 834 so the PF would be 122.6 out of a 4" barrel. A little slow. The ES was 40 fps and the SD was 12.1. Not a particularly consistent load - at least as I loaded them.

    I think I can add 0.1 gr and see what happens. Hodgdon has the maximum load at 3.6 gr for a 147 GR. HDY XTP They also have an OAL of 1.100" and I loaded 1.150". Then again, I'm not using a Hornady XTP.

    Richard
     
  17. Boxerglocker

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    Those 147g will look like shotgun buck shot groups at 25 yards and worse at 50. Take a hint from Sevigny, his Atlanta Arms 147g loads averaged 940 fps (138 Pf) out of his G34. Do not try and hover just above minimum Pf with 147g weight bullets, accuracy will be crap. You'll need velocity to get those bullets to stabilize at any OAL.
     
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  18. F106 Fan

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    It looks like something like 4.2 gr of WSF will get 940 FPS with a 147 gr FMJ. I'll try loading a couple of dozen and see how they work out. Weather permitting, I'll get to test them on Friday.

    I don't have a 5" gun (yet!) so I may not get the same velocities.

    Richard
     
  19. alank2

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    Hi,

    Great video; looks like a lot of fun! I loved the moving targets! I've got to try out IDPA sometime...

    Thanks,

    Alan