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Reloading and shooting... family style. (Pics)

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by GioaJack, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

    Apr 14, 2009
    Conifer, CO
    For the last week or so Mother Nature has tried her best to increase the sales of Prozac and stimulate subscriptions to porn sites. HA! Little did she know who she was dealing with.

    With temperatures approaching 20 below at night and single digits in the day it was the perfect opportunity to stock the larder with modern day plunder.

    Firing up the old melting pot I turned many pounds of dingy wheel weights into glistening projectiles of varying calibers, weights and shapes. During one of my casting sessions my son-in-law stopped by and in appreciation of his hauling all those many pounds of WW around for me I gave him his first, of many to come, casting lesson. Started him off slow and easy with 90 grain RN... don't want to injure the daughter's little hubby.

    A couple days with the LNL's and the Dillons left me with boxes and boxes of semi-shiny, (lets not get that thread started again) loaded rounds just begging to travel down the barrels of various guns.

    Saturday's weather forecast promised a clear Sunday with temperatures in the forties. Perfect weather for shooting and football. Since the NASCAR season hasn't started and the Broncos season ended last week, (the bums), that left shooting. A phone call to my 72 year old shooting buddy, Deak, (you really don't want to shoot against him, either modern or black powder), and the time was set.

    We left at the crack of dawn, or within 3 1/2 hours of it. Myself, my SIL and my 9 year old grandson. To young to take him to a Mexican border town for his first... he is however old enough to shoot his first gun, if you don't count Nerf guns.

    After a nourishing and energy building breakfast at Perkins we stopped off at my buddy's house, loaded the truck with steel and other assorted targets, (plus another 5 gallon bucket of WW) and made our way to the range.

    If you will allow me a few moments of father-in-law and grandfatherly pride I shall post some pictures of our outing and after the frivolities are out of the way I shall relate, in all it's graphic and bloody detail the shooting range accident. Oh, because of picture limitations this may take several posts. Sorry. (Bob2223 and Cobra64 will like this. Even though they have problems with the written word they really get excited with pictures.)

    Our targets... set at 10 and 20 yards. The SIL whined when we wanted to set them from 30-50 yards. Big baby.


    My SIL shooting my 686 at 15 yards. He thought he was hot stuff when he kept knocking down the 8" steel. I fixed that. Notice the black electrical tape over the rear and front sights. If he's gonna learn to shoot, he's gonna learn right. Once he got over his, 'this can't be done attitude', and after I showed him how it could be done, very easily, he only had a couple of misses out of the next 50 or so.


    Same drill only one handed with a Walther PP .380. He also managed it with a Browning Hi-Power, a 2" Chief Model 60, a Star PD, a 6" Model 27 and a Glock 30. All one handed with the sights taped and the gun no higher than mid-chest. He has potential... if I let him stay married to my daughter.


  2. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

    Apr 14, 2009
    Conifer, CO
    My grandson's first shots with a Browning Buckmark. His father is helping him while I, the photographic wizard mans the iphone.


    The 'A' team steps in to offer mature and soothing guidance on the first steps of becoming a Navy Seal. (He better listen to me... I'll cut him out of the will.)


    One of the two reasons that makes life wonderful. (My granddaughter was off doing girly things with my daughter. Do they have girl Navy Seals?)


    The harrowing tale of the range accident follows... not for the timid or squeamish.

  3. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

    Apr 14, 2009
    Conifer, CO
    Alas, we come now to the tragic tale. After taping the SIL's sights and instructing him to shoot one-handed with a low gun I was inundated with protests of impossibilities and disbelief. One would have thought that I was asking the young'un to do something that I either couldn't do or hadn't done in the past. When told this he showed the highest form of disrespect toward a former law enforcement officer... he overtly demonstrated doubt by brazenly stating, "Prove it, you do it first". His time as a member of this family may be limited.

    With a show of confidence and bravado, (to effectively hide the nagging feeling of doubt) I calmly loaded 10 rounds into a Hi-Power magazine, stepped to the line and allowed him to decide the order of targets. (No snot nose 35 year old is gonna get the better of me... I figured if I missed the first two shots I'd tell him that my back was killing me, my rheumatoid arthritis was flaring up causing me to limp wrist and my diabetes was clouding my vision leaving me unable to see the targets. I have decades of experience in coming up with plausible excuses.)

    My first five or six shots dropped steel in the order he had demanded, taped sights, one-handed, gun no higher than mid-chest. I was on a roll, I'd gone back in time to the days of my peak, if there had been a crowd there would have been an ear shattering roar of approval, I spun to the next target, fluid in movement, a blur of speed... I shot, the steel fell... and so did I!

    A perfect head shot, the optimal sniper shot if you will, designed to traverse the breadth of the skull and destroy the base of the brain stem. A 9mm ricochet just below the nose and just above what women describe as my pouty yet sensual lips. This was not your average bounce off and fall to the ground ricochet, this gouged a hunk of skin from beneath my recently groomed mustache and resulted in profuse blood letting. Always thinking of the welfare of others before my own, (it is actions such as this that has earned me the reputation the most compassionate human being second only to Mother Teresa), I secured the gun before worrying about my own agony.

    My grandson queried my SIL as to whether he should go for help or possibly call 911... I'm not exactly sure what he said because my shooting buddy Deak was laughing so hard and loud that interpreting excited speech was more than difficult.

    I remember hearing my SIL saying that he would take care of the situation and then removing one of his boot laces. After using all of the tricks and treachery that an old cripple can muster I was able to fend him off at which time he informed me that he had merely intended to apply a very tight tourniquet around my neck to help staunch the flow of blood. A lessor, more naive man might have taken him at his word... I, on the other hand saw through his ruse and knew it was just a ploy to hasten his gun and reloading equipment laden inheritance.

    Having had numerous emergency medical training classes I forestalled my imminent demise, either at the hands of my SIL or by blood loss by applying a snow compress thereby stopping the flow of blood.

    All in all it's been a great week and it was a great day. Take the family shooting... I highly recommend it.

  4. IndyGunFreak


    Jan 26, 2001
    Dang... Glad you're OK... how far away were the targets?
  5. mattellis2


    Sep 8, 2005
    that I-phone takes really good pictures for a phone camera. glad you weren't seriously hurt.
  6. [​IMG]

    You know what they say.

    Glad you made out OK Jack.
  7. Toledo


    Feb 15, 2005
    Ober Der
    This was Glen Beck as a kid...
  8. Bob2223

    Bob2223 Jack's buddy!

    Mar 26, 2009
    Spencer Indiana
    Nice pictures Jack,,
    Thats cool that your getting your SIL in to loading and casting.
    We have talked a little about presses and other equip that he wont want or need.
    I never though the bidding would be so soon but hearing about the boot lace thing maybe I need to start saving some cash?
    I bet your grandson had a day he will remember, thats great that you have him shooting at that age, thats the way to keep this sport alive for generations to come.
    I have seen a few ricochet wounds but probably more scope tattoos, seem someone always has to show off and then gets hurt?
    Next time maybe you should listen to your SIL and move the targets out a little, just a thought ?
    Got to thinkin about it and it hit me you were just an inch or so from ruining your case luber !
    Looks like you all had a great day, (well for the most part) I enjoyed reading the post and yes the pictures were nice.
    Hope ya heal up soon!

    Thanks for posting and sharing a really great day! :thumbsup:

  9. Davegrave

    Davegrave Dapper Dan

    Sep 1, 2005
    NW IN
    Full moon that morning?
    You look like Teen Wolf's dad. :rofl:

    Sounds like a fun day though. :supergrin:
  10. srd


    Apr 4, 2009
    Thanks for the memmories Jack. Makes me want to call my kids and go to the range despite the cold weather. Maybe i can tech my newest SIL how to shoot. My oldest daughters husband is a former Marine drill sergeant and according to him he already knows everything. Still refuses to shoot against me after 18 years. Hmmmmm
  11. Jack, hope you heal up fast, thanks for the great story, sounds like a overall good day of shooting with the family. I chuckled about the tourniquet part!
  12. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

    Apr 14, 2009
    Conifer, CO

    The steel was between 12-15 yards away depending on witch target you were shooting at.

    I prefer to shoot between 25 to 50 yards, not as boring but young shooters get discouraged with that... they like to hear the 'ding' of the steel. Forget NRA target shooting... very few people seem to want to do that anymore.

    We've all been hit ricocheting shrapnel before but usually it's just small pieces of lead of fragmented jacket.

    This was the weirdest thing I've ever encountered... the entire base of the bullet came straight back, perfectly flattened and in a perfect circle. My grandson found it on the ground and kept it. I'll see if I can borrow it from him and take a picture.

    It started out as a 121 grain RN out of a Lyman mould and I'd say that it was somewhere around 25-40 grains when it hit me. Hurt like hell... this morning there is still a pretty good blood scab and my lip is swollen . If I meet some women I'll make up a good war story.

    One point for those who may just be getting into the shooting sport. It seems fairly obvious that hearing and eye protection should always be worn while shooting, or even when in close proximity to someone shooting.

    I've never been real good about hearing protection, started out many years ago by putting empty .38 cases in our ears... even did that in the air force. Still don't wear any hearing protection when shooting trap or black powder rifles... always use it with modern guns however. I'm deaf as a post and always have telephones ringing in my ears. Wear hearing protection... if you don't it will catch up with you, may take years but it'll get ya.

    More importantly is eye protection. For those who wear glasses everyday for vision correction... never, never, never shoot with GLASS lenses... make sure they are plastic. Yes, I know, plastic scratches easier and they aren't quite as clear as glass but in the event of an impact they will not shatter and cause even more injury.

    There is no doubt in my mind that had that ricochet hit me in the eye without eye protection it would have taken my eye out. It certainly hit with enough energy to have shattered glass lenses but plastic, although most likely would have been broken possibly resulting in some minor cuts and the need for a change of under garments would have protected my eye.

    Have fun, shoot often but always be safe.

  13. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

    Apr 14, 2009
    Conifer, CO

    I'll have you know that for the last eleven years I have been actively employed as a male model... I'm the BEFORE picture in Bally's Fitness clubs. :whistling:

  14. unclebob


    Oct 14, 2000
    Mary Esther FL
    I also can testify in wearing hearing protection. Even better is double hearing protection. I have a small box fan that is beside my bed that I have on. It puts out enough noise too block out the ringing in my ears. I have even heard of people sleeping with a vacuum cleaner going just so they can get some sleep.
    One time I was timing a friend of mine on the plate rack. The sun was just right and I seen the bullet go out hit the bar under the plates and come back and hit me in the throat. It did not draw blood. But for a short time I thought I was shot. It only hurt like hell.
    I do not think I have been too a Glock match that I have not been hit at least one time with bullet fragments, and you do not even have too be where they are shooting steel.
  15. WiskyT

    WiskyT Malcontent

    Jun 12, 2002
    North Carolina
    When you posted "family style", I pictured a big steaming bowl of pasta fagiole in the middle of a red and white table cloth with everyone gathered around it.

    Now to the bloody incident. Were those "real" steel targets or home made jobs from generic steel? Soft steel will splash back crap at you all day long and is dangerous. The good stuff has a "ring" to it when hit. It rings right in the range of your tinitus so you will think you're getting nothing but hits. Seriously, the good steel shatters the bullets and they don't bounce back.

    It was nice of the people at the range to let you pose with them.
  16. shotgunred

    shotgunred local trouble maker

    Mar 1, 2008
    Washington (the state)
    were did you find that big white tarp. A tarp that size must make it easy to find your brass.

    DEADLYACCURATE Senior Member

    Oct 24, 2009
  18. Davegrave

    Davegrave Dapper Dan

    Sep 1, 2005
    NW IN
    And here you are modeling glasses from and 1989 Lenscrafters add.

  19. I'd love to know what your recipe is for a 124gr boolit out of a 9mm that actually shoots straight.
  20. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

    Apr 14, 2009
    Conifer, CO

    Shoot straight, are you crazy. I've gotten to the point where I depend on tumbling rounds and a horrendous cross wind to blow my shots into the target. :crying: