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Red-Light Camera Ticket

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by M&P15T, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. M&P15T

    M&P15T Beard One

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    I gots me one, from the great city of Fairfax VA.

    Do I get points? Or do I just pay a fine, like with a speeding camera?
     
  2. byf43

    byf43 NRA Life Member

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    Didn't know Virginia had red-light cameras!!!!


    Should just be paying the fine. No points assessed.
     

  3. You should check into the law....Virginia might be one of the few states that require the ticket to be served personally...if its mailed or tacked to your door it might not be valid.
    this is c/p from a National Motorist Blog:
    Thus, under Virginia’s red light camera statute as it is now worded, the mere mailing of a citation without personal service by a law enforcement officer does not constitute sufficient notice under the statute’s own terms. While the statute permits the jurisdiction to make the initial attempt to summon the accused to court via mail, if that person fails to respond, he or she is not considered to have been satisfactorily served with notice.

    Bottom Line: Do a little research...it just might save you some $$.
     
  4. M&P15T

    M&P15T Beard One

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    You did some research, and quoted some of it above. I am completely confused........what are end are you getting at? Do you imagine there's some technicality that I can use to my advantage to not pay the ticket?

    I ran a red light, it's not in dispute. I've seen the video, it's on-line, there's no denying it. I'm just trying to figure out if I'm going to get points.
     
  5. My (very little) research showed that some people had fought the ticket and won due to a loophole in the statute.

    ya did the crime now do the time......just pay the ticket and learn from it.


    Virginia has a 3 point assessment and up to $200 fine (depending on driving record) for going thru red light. expect negligent increase on insurance premiums.
     
  6. *ASH*

    *ASH*

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    THEY got rid of em here in my area of nc . to many loopholes and the big wigs had enough of the backlash so they took em down :supergrin:

    there was so many way to hide your plates it just was waste of money
     
  7. KalashniKEV

    KalashniKEV

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    "The owner is liable for the payment of the fine for violations recorded using blah, blah, blah... POINTS WILL NOT BE ASSESSED AGAINST THE REGISTERED OWNER OR THE DESIGNATED DRIVER FOR THIS VIOLATION"

    Taken from a DC camera ticket I have on my desk... I'm sure Fairfax is the same...

    :)
     
  8. Bullwinkle J Moose

    Bullwinkle J Moose Quick! Duck!

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    He did not suggest using a technicality to invalidate the ticket, but to possibly use the law to invalidate it. Is it really a loophole or technicality to require government to obey the same laws we are require to obey?
     
  9. G29Reload

    G29Reload Tread Lightly

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    I used this statute to avoid paying MD red light /speed cams. VA resident living just west of OP.

    Not sure how instate works, they could send an officer around, not sure if they bother.
     
  10. G29Reload

    G29Reload Tread Lightly

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    DC? Don't pay it. nothing happens. Seriously. no violation hits, certainly not the points as above and they can't collect the money. VA law requires officer service.
     
  11. M&P15T

    M&P15T Beard One

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    Thanks folks, I really appreciate the information. Ya'll are great, which is why I asked here on GT.

    I'll wait until I get the ticket in my hands, and take it from there.
     
  12. I've always felt tickets generated by photo or video evidence should not be legal. If you have the right to face your accuser in court how are they going to swear in a camera?
     
  13. nmk

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    The camera is not your accuser. It is physical evidence used by your accuser.
     
  14. KalashniKEV

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    I contested it through the website.

    It was for running a red light, but I was just stopped over the line and waited for green.
     
  15. hogfish

    hogfish Señor Member

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    You get points. I run one every chance I get. Sometimes I just run around the block so I can run it again and get more points. :supergrin:
     
  16. el_jewapo

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    Send them a picture of the fine money.
     
  17. roger123

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    No points, my daughters boyfriend borrowed her car once to do a food run for their work. He rolled the light on a left turn, I got the fine in the mail. Nice video as well. Yes, he paid us the $50!!
     
  18. porschedog

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    Two words: paintball gun