In the market for my first shotgun and I have no idea where to start... I've heard and read about both the Mossburg 500 and Remington 870 series and find that they are both solid platforms...other than that, not really sure what else to look for. I know I want it to be a 12gauge, and I would like to be able to put a pistol grip with full stock on it. I will be mainly used at the range and as HD. Not sure how the length of the shell translates into cost of ammo, but I would like to be able to buy a full range of ammo (cheap ammo for range/quality ammo for HD). Also I'm a fan of the "underdog" brands of firearms, so feel free to throw those in the mix. Thanks Wanna kill these ads? We can help!