RCMP: Lack of gun registry ‘challenging’

Discussion in 'Gun-Control Issues' started by 4Rules, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. I sure do hope they relax their gun laws a lot, and make them fairly equal to what we have here in the US, in regards to not having registered firearms or owners, and concealed carry, along with open carry. Then that will just be one less reason, as to why I shouldn't move to Canada.

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  2. Their country, they can do what they want, won't bother me.
  3. NFA President Sheldon Clare says he's complained to the federal privacy and information commissioners, along with the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP, about three instances when police may have used data that were ordered destroyed. The best-known case, says Clare, is the RCMP's seizure of rifles and shotguns from flooded homes in High River, Alta., last summer. He says recordings of RCMP radio transmissions indicate officers knew where to look for firearms and how many to expect before entering homes.
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  5. Edward Osborne, a Calgary gun collector and competitive target shooter, imported a Czech-made VZ58 pistol, a shortened version of the popular CZ858 rifle, from the United States. He spent about $1,400 to buy the gun. But when it arrived and he tried to register it, it turned out that model wasn’t in RCMP databases. For Osborne to own it legally, RCMP technicians need to examine and classify it. The gun’s now locked in an RCMP lab, waiting for a decision. The RCMP could classify it as a restricted firearm, which means it would be treated like a traditional handgun, or as a prohibited firearm, which would make its possession illegal.
  6. janice6

    Platinum Member

    Those pesky citizens and their wanting "rights". They cause no end of problems for politicians that want to control them.

    That's what comes from having to live next to another country with a Bill of rights, nothing but problems.
  7. Defence lawyer and firearms expert Solomon Friedman gives his take on the RCMP's answers to a Conservative MP about the measures taken by the authorities during the High River crisis.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGzJRtI6PYc"]Solomon Friedman on the High River gun grab - RCMP answers edition - YouTube[/ame]
  8. In its ruling, the court found that the federal government does not have to relinquish its gun-registry database to Quebec, affirming Parliament’s constitutional right over criminal law. “Quebec has no legal right to the data,” said the majority decision, authored by Justices Thomas Cromwell and Andromache Karakatsanis. The Conservative government’s 2012 legislation to end the federal gun registry – and destroy its database – “is a lawful exercise of Parliament’s criminal law legislative power under the Constitution.”
  9. RCMP say the officer had the gun because she was about to travel to Gagetown, N.B., for training following a visit with friends in Halifax. Const. Jullie Rogers-Marsh says there are policies surrounding travelling with guns. "The pistol must be unloaded and locked in the approved RCMP storage firearms container when travelling," she said. "And the pistol must also be inoperable with a secure locking device." Halifax police say the gun was locked in a strong box in the vehicle, while the magazines each hold 15 bullets.
  10. "We live in a modern age where we know that deleted is never really deleted," said Solomon Friedman, an Ottawa lawyer with expertise in firearms law. He previously acted on behalf of the National Firearms Association, which has long pressed for the registry's destruction. Solomon said traces of the registry are likely enmeshed in other databases, including those controlled by police forces, and could be partially reconstructed through access to information requests. A spokesman for Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney as much as confirmed the persistence of "deleted" long-gun registry data. "It was still possible to access outdated copies of the long-gun registry through access to information legislation," Jean-Christophe de Le Rue said in a statement. "This technical amendment will address this."
  11. If the measure becomes law, it will be impossible for the federal government itself to release the remaining registry data. But it’s been freely available for years from the RCMP, and La Presse makes its copy available for anyone to download. You can read the RCMP’s technical explanation of how the deletion was carried out, in documents obtained under access-to-information laws, at globalnews.ca.
    “It was still possible to access outdated copies of the long-gun registry through Access to Information legislation,” Jeremy Laurin, a spokesperson in Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney’s office, said in an e-mailed statement.
    “The will of Parliament has been made clear, and all copies of the registry were to be destroyed. This technical amendment will address this.”

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