we took the gun my friend bought from deenoh to the range for the first time last sunday, and i must say i was impressed! the bullets available were bullets that our reloader said did not feed well in his old model norc, the one with the safety on the slide, so we had no choice, sabi ko sa kanya baka mag ka-igi dito sa new model, hindi nga ako nagkamali, 100rnds. not one jam! we fired it at 5meters as fast as he could pull the trigger for around 30rnds, no problem, so i made him shoot plates at 15meters, tyro sya so medyo hirap pa, pero ang baril flawless. this is a great gun at a great price, 19k all in, its just sad that armscor couldnt make a similar gun at a simila price and quality.