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Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by hoghunter82, Mar 10, 2013.

  1. hoghunter82

    hoghunter82 FL Glocker #182

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    I am one of the lucky few who shoot right handed but am left eye dominant. Never been able to shoot both eyes open so I have to tilt my head WAAY to the right to line up the sights. The muffs always get in the way and lodge between my head and shoulder. I've bought countless muffs over the interwebs only to be unhappy. I even bought those orange Leight plugs on the plastic band. What I want is an actual pair of muffs (not plugs) that lay virtually flat against your head so when I tilt they don't interfere. Any recommendations?
     
  2. mjkeat

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    Change your grip. Shooting the way you do drastically limits your vision and isn't very efficient at all. From my experience those that shoot in the manner you described usually are not able to get a proper stance. It's an issue that effects other aspects of shooting and ultimately downgrades your overall performance.

    As a right eye dom left southpaw I had to adapt. I shoot right handed.

    Learning to shoot both eyes open would be your best option.

    Basically start shooting southpaw or learn to shoot both eyes open.
     

  3. hoghunter82

    hoghunter82 FL Glocker #182

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    I would like to shoot both eyes open but it has been a tremendous struggle.
     
  4. mjkeat

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    Momma always said...LOL

    Seriously though, like everything it takes time.

    Also try closing the right eye as your punch out instead of waiting.
     
  5. KalashniKEV

    KalashniKEV

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    You shoot a long gun from your dominant eye.
     
  6. hoghunter82

    hoghunter82 FL Glocker #182

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    Actually, I do not. I use my right eye for shooting long rifles and bows. Many a deer have fallen using this method. Maybe I should just learn to shoot weak eye.


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  7. vista461

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    I am left eye dom/right handed. For handguns I just move my hand to the left a bit and use my left eye with both of them open, head straight up. I still use my right eye for long guns, can't get used to shooting lefty with a long gun.
     
  8. barth

    barth six barrels

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    Cross eye dominance is a stinker.
    I'd like to shoot with both eyes open, but that's worse.
    I've just learned to close my dominant eye and shoot with the weak one.
    Everything works fine like that.
    I'm right handed and use a modified weaver stance.

    I'm semi ambidextrous too.
    And think that's just part of the cross wiring - LOL.
     
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  9. jmb79

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    I too am right handed and left eyed. As vista461 stated, I only have to move my head a little bit in order to align my left eye with handgun sights. If you have to crank you head way over to the side, so much that you impinge your ear pro, something is wrong. My guess is that you don't really need to tilt as much as your are.

    For the record, I shoot handguns with my right hand and long guns with my left hand/left shoulder mount. Just started doing it than way when I was kid and didn't know any better.
     
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  10. Warp

    Warp ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    http://www.srstactical.com/communic...a-sordin-supreme-pro*x,-black/75302*x*02.html

    With gel ear cups.

    Although if you are indoors, next to a rifle with an obnoxious brake, or with centerfire rifles and under a roof/awning, you will want plugs underneath them. Still great though, if you have to put plugs under them just turn the volume up a little and you are in business.
     
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  11. mtbinva

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    I'm the same way. I just adapted my right eye and it fixed a lot of issues.
     
  12. jmb79

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  13. La26

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    When gripping the weapon with your right hand and using the left hand for support (a basic both thumbs forward two handed grip) , try slightly rotating the weapon so that the sights are at 11 o'clock, and the magazine is kinda pointing at 5 o'clock. I don't mean an exaggerated "gangsta" 90 degree grip, but just slightly rotated so that the sights are aligned with your left eye, and close your right eye, or keep both eyes open. When shooting the qualification course, that is how I shoot from the support (left) side barricade.
    It is best to keep your head upright when shooting, and try to avoid tilting it either way.
     
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  14. hoghunter82

    hoghunter82 FL Glocker #182

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    Thanks for all the comments. I will try everything mentioned above and see what works.


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  15. Lowjiber

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    Hickock45 is left eye dominate. Doesn't seem to have a problem.:whistling:
     
  16. KalashniKEV

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    I don't doubt that it's possible to hit a target using the weak eye or contorting your body into some bizarre position... I dated some ditzy chick that drove an automatic with both feet once- she managed to keep it on the road.

    Those who think they have trained their weak eye to function as good as their dominant eye... usually have not. Only Nicholas Cage can take a few laps around the motor pool with panties on his head and come out with a completely new set of neural pathways.

    If you're interested in learning how to shoot though, and eventually becoming good at it, you're going to have to shoot from your dominant eye.

    This presents several great advantages such as:

    1) You will be able to instantaneously assess malfunctions with a carbine and render the appropriate remedy.

    2) You will naturally reload and reduce malfunctions faster with your dominant hand.

    3) You will perform slug changeovers faster, and with greater accuracy on a pump shotgun.

    4) Your transitions to pistol will be much faster because you will be coming out of the holster with your strong hand while stowing the rifle with your other hand.

    5) You will drive a long gun faster and more accurately using your strong hand.

    IF you happen to have a disability, like Mike Pannone does, you can jump the optic higher (into outer space) and it will be easier to witness with your far side eye. This is obviously sub-optimal for a number of reasons though.

    [​IMG]

    If you don't have a glass eye, I recommend you learn how to shoot a long gun though...
     
  17. mtbinva

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    I respectfully disagree. Top, left eye (My dominant eye); bottom, right eye. Right handed with a G27.

    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1363015717.140176.jpg

    The top had 2 mags on it, bottom only one.

    EDIT: 7 yards out.
     
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  18. KalashniKEV

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    How are you isolating for one eye or the other when shooting a pistol?

    Are you not shooting with both eyes open?

    Are you not shooting Modern Iso?

    Are you sure you know which is your dominant eye?
     
  19. mtbinva

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    How are you isolating for one eye or the other when shooting a pistol? Simply using the right eye. A MP instructor and I had this discussion, and said its simply a matter of practice. And dry fire exercises.

    Are you not shooting with both eyes open? No, I tried and found it difficult, could not get a good site picture.

    Are you not shooting Modern Iso? Yes

    Are you sure you know which is your dominant eye? Yes